Wednesday, June 14, 2006

Vancouver Public Library meeting.

When a business magazine, such as, takes a look at mosques as armouries and sees them for what they are, what do we make of our governments who look at mosques as armouries and see nothing but buildings made with voting blocs?

At what point does the average person say it's too much lying from our elected representatives? We still have the right to toss them out of office. But what do we do when our own won't do the needed thing? What if our own vote for dhimmis and fascists? Business people are looking at the world of Islam now and they are seeing what so many of us have known for years: that Islam is a violent poligion, a political religion bent on conquest and the violent impostion of slavery and death upon the world at large. Our governors still don't get it. Many of our voting fellow-citizens don't get it. And here we are in democracies where our majority fellows will determine our lives-- or our deaths.

Business people are clueing in. Being dead is bad for business. Below is a view from the world of hard-headed people who see the bottom line and conclude that mosques are a source of danger for people.

Sanctuaries Of Terror

Posted 6/8/2006

War On Terror: Time and time again, the mosque connection shows up in plots against Western targets. Yet authorities remain reluctant to do much about it. Why?

In fact, almost half the suspects in the Toronto terror plot worshiped at the same mosque. But Toronto police tried to dismiss any religious motivation.

Chief Bill Blair assured Canadians that the Muslim suspects "were motivated by an ideology based on politics, hatred and terrorism, and not on faith." He added, "I am not aware of any mosques that these individuals were influenced by."

Really? No fewer than seven of the suspects prayed daily at a small Toronto-area mosque called Al-Rahman Islamic Center for Islamic Education. And the oldest suspect, 43-year-old Qayyum Abdul Jamal, often led prayers there.

Many are college-educated professionals, not career criminals. Religious, law-abiding. Under other circumstances, you might call them "church-going folk."

Only, mosques aren't churches as we know them. Yes, most are used as places of worship by devout Muslims who wish none of us harm. But mosques are also used as fundraising centers for jihad, recruiting stations for jihadists, military planning headquarters and even weapons depots.

There's no evidence yet to suggest the leaders of the Toronto mosque encouraged or even knew of their members' plans to blow up government sites. But they certainly knew that Jamal — a native of al-Qaida hotbed Karachi, Pakistan — had a bone to pick with the Canadian government for sending troops to Afghanistan. They let him take the mike and rant about it at Juma, or Friday prayers.

The mosque's imam, Qumal Khanson, even tried to defend the suspects' actions. "Just the possession of ammonium nitrate doesn't prove that they have done anything wrong," he said.

Sure, they amassed three tons of the stuff that Timothy McVeigh used to destroy a large building simply to fertilize their gardens.

The former imam of the Finsbury Park Mosque in London did encourage terrorism. Abu Hamza al-Masri regularly preached about the legitimacy of "martyrdom operations" against infidels. The mosque under his leadership influenced some of the London subway bombers, shoe-bomber Richard Reid and Zacarias Moussaoui.

It wasn't until several months after the tragic bombings that the London police declared the mosque "a haven for terrorists." Still, they didn't shut it down. No worries: They've been assured it's under new, "moderate" management.

America has its share of dangerous mosques, too. The 9-11 hijackers got aid and comfort from at least seven mosques in five states, coast to coast.

One wasn't far from the Pentagon. The imam of Dar al-Hijrah Islamic Center at the time — a Saudi-connected specialist on martyrdom and the rewards of Paradise — privately counseled the leader of the Pentagon cell.

He's since fled the country. But the mosque's prayer leader, Sheikh Mohammed al-Hanooti, is an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. And several of the mosque's directors are members of the Muslim Brotherhood, a worldwide jihad movement that gave rise to Hamas and al-Qaida.

With leaders like that, it's no surprise that Dar al-Hijrah has cultivated more terrorists than any other mosque in the country. They include:

Abdurahman Alamoudi, one of al-Qaida's top fundraisers in America; Omar Abu Ali, who cased U.S. nuke plants for al-Qaida and plotted to assassinate President Bush; Hamas political leader Mousa Abu Marzook; Abdullah bin Laden, Osama's terror-financing nephew; Ismail Elbarasse, arrested for casing the Chesapeake Bay Bridge; and Randall "Ismail" Royer, who's serving time for training to kill U.S. troops overseas.

The mosque's executive committee came out in support of several of the terrorists. Some leaders even put up their homes as bond for their release from jail.

When London police finally raided the Finsbury mosque, they recovered around 100 stolen and forged passports and driver's licenses, blank-firing handguns, chemical warfare suits, camping equipment, a stun gun and a tear gas canister. We wonder what police would find at Dar al-Hijrah. What other evil lurks there?

Unfortunately, the large mosque is in the backyard of the nation's capital and protected by rings of muscular Muslim lobby groups that intimidate politicians. The FBI can barely make a move without first consulting the groups.

Meanwhile, the Pentagon is erecting a mosque at the Marine base in Quantico, Va., and putting a Wahhabi preacher posing as a moderate in charge of it. It's the first of its kind in the 230-year history of the Corps.

The deputy secretary of defense and the Marine commandant both sang the praises of Islam at the dedication ceremony Tuesday, not realizing that the mosque can be used by the enemy to build a Fifth Column inside the Marines.

The unpleasant truth is the enemy uses mosques for terrorist activities. They are hubs connecting a terror network stretching from London to Toronto and even to Washington. There are more than 1,200 in America, and eight of 10 of them are controlled by Saudi Arabia and espouse its hateful, anti-Western Wahhabi dogma.

One may be in your neighborhood, or under construction there.

Muslims have a ready-made organisational principle and over a thousand years of tradition in conquest and evil in the flesh. Democratic people are individualists and self-sufficient and progressive, not inclined to dwell on the past nor to worry obsessively about things that can't change. Today they begin to worry about mosques. Business men, but not the Pentagon.

Business men might well save the world. Let's hope there's one in your neighbourhood or at least one in the making.

If you mean business, join us Thursday evening at Vancouver Public Library from 7-9:00 p.m. in the atrium to discuss it with us. You'll know us by our blue scarves and kerchiefs and me in my Israeli flag baseball cap.

The bottom line is that the marketplace of ideas is looking for some new products, and you might well be the one to provide them.


Ronald Barbour said...

Excellent article, Dag!

I'll wager Central Florida has the same problem.

Homeland Security should be checking these places out, but I won't hold my breath.


dag said...

There are many problems with the mosque as idea. One, and we should pay cloase attention to it, is that if there is a mosque, and it needn't be built to order, it can be a store-front in a strip mall, then that mosque is now and fovever Islamic territory. It can be a Jewish owned dry cleaning company next but to the Mulsim mind it will always be Muslim territory. Business men might think about theat when they rent or lease property. They won't of course, and likely cannot at this point due to both legal and social reasons. The problem is that once the light of Allah has shone on a place, then it is forever seen by Muslims as either dar al Harb or stolen. The first example to look at is al Andalus. Spain and even France and Austria are seen as Islamic possessions in the eyes of Muslims. The rest of the world is theirs for the taking but some parts are theirs for the taking back.

For those who can convince themselves that something is theirs to begin with they have a greater incentive to reclaim it than they do to steal something new, not that it stops Mulsim either way. But it is prudent for landlords to consider later repercussions.

We can look at prisons in the same way. We send people to prison to rid ourselves of them for at least a while, but Muslims use them as mosques.If I own a place and find myself a prisoner inside it and bullied by infidels, then my resentment will only increase. Same with schools and government offices and so on.

In an article below we look again at Trinidad, a base for what I suspect will be a beach-head for jihad across the Caribbean. The feral populations of the Caribbean, spending much time in prisons, will learn from the mosque/prison the ideology of Islam and further it till we have more than the nightmare the CIA is now upset about. South Florida is a stepping stone.

I'm seriously thinking of proclaiming myself the founder of a world-wide movement of one under the title of "Atheists for Jesus." Among other reasons for it, I see one of our few hopes as resting in the bosom of the Churches and a Christian revival. War is all well and fine as a stick to beat our enemies but we need a carrot as well if we're not to simply murder everyone we can't trust. Better to give people a chance to convert to Christianity and actually assimilate the ethos of Modernity from it. I could use some of that myself.

In short, we have to take what is ours and keep what is ours as a Western culturre. We can't sit back and expect peace and love to prevail simply because we are plugged in to our iPods. We must struggle against those who struggle against us, and pop tunes and valium won't suffice. We need a reason to care about ourselves and our world of beautiful Humanity. In and of itself it doesn't seem to interest most peole, so I think it's time for some of us to take up the banner of Atheists for Jesus and just hope we don't let down those who actually have the faith.

deDam said...

What a beautiful architectural piece!!! Congratulation!!!

Yes Islam should be banned simple as is . the generous welcome and TRUST they enjoyed by Canada is seriously fatally ABUSED ..

let them go....

Brandon_T_Stanley said...


At least you are enough of a logical athiest to see the power of religion for good as well as ill

maccusgermanis said...

I think Ali Sina might join your coalition of the doubting.

"Once you strip Christianity from all the fairytales and superstitions, and separate it from the actions of the Church, you see that it’s is a good teaching."

Charles Henry said...

here's a link to the latest Mark Steyn interview I mentioned at the meeting tonight:
thursday June 15
Steyn is a guest on Hugh Hewitt's radio show every thursday, barring major news like Zarqawi's death and such like, so just head there every thursday night to hear the mp3 audio of the visit.

Great to see everyone as usual.

Dedam, our library is indeed beautiful. Which makes it a wonderful meeting place!

Jauhara said...

Ummm, Dag...your headline reads:

Vancouver Pubic Library meeting.

I am assuming, of course, that it was intentional...unless I am wrong,which I am quite often, on occasion.

dag said...

It reads "Public," after some fancy editing, from plubic, pulbic, and at one point publiclik. It is all out in the open, regardless.

We had a great meeting there, and we'll do it all again next week same tiem, smae place.