Saturday, August 13, 2005

PCUSA Ministers rush to defend al-Dhimmi in Pennsylvania.



Upon reading in the Islamic Flat Earth News that a fellow minister in Pennsylvania is suing the Joooos, Presbyterian ministers from around the USA today rushed to join him in a show of solidarity against the Evil Zionist Entity.

They arrived in Pennsylvania panting and sweating. "We aren't sure what the latest fashion is," said their spokesminister person, "So we came nearly naked."

"The important thing," said another, "is that we show our solidarity with our fellow anti-racist minister person in the right kind of fashion-statement clothing. Personally, I prefer a chic chiffon gown in stone-washed salmon, set off by a salmon moussed bouffant coif to give that subtle but daringly avant garde ambience to my persona." Asked about further Presbyterian fashion statements in support of the PEEE-PUL, he said: "I'll finish off my ensemble with green gaberdine and alligator spats."

In a late-breaking press release in Latin the Presbyterian Synod declared in support of innocent Palestinians babies: "Coito ergo sum."
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Presbyterians everywhere, in rapidly diminishing numbers, press on to divest themselves from the Hated Zionist Entity that forces the Palestinian PEEE-Pul to commit murder by suicide bombing martyrdom.
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A TIME OF CHANGE

ISRAELIS, PALESTINIANS AND THE DISENGAGEMENT
Boy ready for martyrdom

Matthew B. Stannard, Chronicle Staff Writer

Friday, August 12, 2005





Netanya, Israel -- The series

Fifteen-year-old Abdel Kareem Mohammed Abu Habel sits in an Israeli prison after he tried and failed to martyr himself last year. Would he do it again? Without a doubt, he says.

Abdel Kareem Mohammed Abu Habel agrees with Israeli critics who say that next week's disengagement from the Gaza Strip and parts of the West Bank will do nothing to stop Palestinian terrorist attacks against Israel.

Sitting in his jail cell in the Sharon Detention Center in central Israel, he also said he would never accept peace with the Jewish state, even if Israel eventually pulled back to its pre-1967 borders, behind the so-called Green Line. He doesn't even know what the Green Line is.

The only peace he wants "is to get back all our lands," meaning the entire state of Israel.

"We don't want the Jews on this world," he said.

Abdel is 15. He has a baby face that sharply contrasts with the cigarette sticking out of his broken teeth. He is in prison for strapping a bomb to his belly in the spring of 2004 and trying to kill Israelis by killing himself.

If he were released today, he said, it would not be long before he tried again.

"One month," he estimated. "I would want to see my family first."

Those who fear the consequences of Israel's disengagement cite teenagers like Abdel, who have been increasingly recruited into the ranks of suicide bombers by extremist anti-Israel groups such as Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

"I don't like Abu Mazen," he said, referring to the name Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas is known by. "Abu Amar (the late Yasser Arafat) didn't want peace. Abu Mazen wants peace."

"When I was a little boy ... I saw people killed become martyrs," Abdel said, fidgeting in a cheap plastic chair in the cellblock classroom. "When I saw that, I started thinking I wanted to do an operation."

Growing up, he heard over and over again the stories -- true or not -- of how his family was driven from its home near Ashkelon during the 1948 Arab- Israeli war, and of a grandfather who died fighting the Jews.

"It is an honor for us to go and fight and throw stones," he said. "Every stone we throw is another step toward honor from God."

His older brother was shot in the legs, he said, and never walked properly again. Abdel proudly showed the scar on his own leg, where he said he had been shot by an Israeli soldier, and the scar from a bullet he said had grazed his head. He talked about seeing his own blood on his hands after that injury, about being taken to the ambulance as he recited the shahadah, an Islamic prayer: "There is no God but Allah, and Mohammed is His Prophet," the words a Muslim tries to speak in the final moments before death.

Quickly, Abdel moved beyond stone-throwing in Jabaliya. In one incident, he claimed, he pressed the detonator to set off a bomb that blew up an Israeli tank.

That night, he said, he saw on the news that the explosion had injured three soldiers.

"I was very happy. The other people knew I had done it and were happy for me. And somebody had filmed me!" he said. "My family told me, 'This is what we want. We want mujahedeen.' "

The injured soldiers, or their families, he said, did not enter his mind.

He was arrested and released three times over the next two years, he said. On the last of those occasions, he was held for three months, he said. Israeli laws do not allow the review of juveniles' files, so his account could not be independently confirmed.

A week after he was released, Abdel made plans for martyrdom. He purchased the components -- explosives, belt, detonator -- to make a suicide belt, using money he had earned by making gold bracelets for sale. It cost about 1,000 Israeli shekels -- approximately $250.

Three friends helped him make a video of himself holding an M-16, with the Hamas flag behind him and saying some final words that he has since forgotten. Then, he donned the belt and went to a checkpoint manned by Israeli soldiers not far from his home.

He insisted the plan was his own idea, although Israeli officials have accused extremist groups in the West Bank and Gaza of recruiting young men like Abdel for terrorist acts.

"I was going to be dead," he said. "I was going to see God and defend Jerusalem. I was happy." He was 14.

He thought about his family -- about how his brothers would be interrogated, his family home demolished.

"They would be honored," he said confidently. "It's worth it. The most important thing is that the operation succeeds."

But there were problems. Somehow, the soldiers had a picture of Abdel. They ordered him to halt and disrobe. Surrounded, he said, by fellow vulnerable Palestinians, he removed the belt, watching in fury as an Israeli Defense Force robot dragged it away. Then, he was taken into custody.

His parents, brothers and sisters still live in Jabaliya in the same concrete home.... It is filled with photos of Hamas leaders and shaheed (martyrs) -- dead men with guns -- and a few photos of Abdel.

But the boy changed around his 10th year, she said, when he was hit in the knee by an Israeli bullet. He spent four months in the hospital, two more before he could walk on his own. He missed examinations, then refused to return to school, she said. He was angry. He wanted revenge.

"His father insisted he stay here, away from the soldiers and away from the kids who were throwing stones at the soldiers," she said. "The first time, he was hit in the knee. The second time, he might be hit in the head."

Abdel turned a deaf ear to the entreaties. He would reply, Besma said: "It's too bad that bullet hit me in the knee and not in the head. I would have been a martyr."

During an interview with The Chronicle, she first said her son's attempted suicide bombing was an Israeli fiction created in interrogation. Or a frame-up by older boys. But when told by a reporter that the story came from his own lips, she said something different.

"All the youngsters these days, this is what they talk about. Anywhere you go in this area. This is what they think about, the little kids. To blow themselves up," she said. "If you take the youngest kid, he'll say this is what he wants to do. Kill Jews."

"Of course I was proud that my son was fighting back. Not only him -- most kids his age," she said. "The parents are proud because the children are engaged in resistance. But we didn't think it would get to the point of suicide belts."

Had her son succeeded in his mission, Besma said, her feelings would have been mixed.

"Of course, yes, I would have been happy," she said. And proud. Even though it would be very sad for me to lose my son. But I would be very proud," she said.

"But of course, not when he was 14. This is for somebody older that him .. . 18 and up to 20 ... somebody this age, it would be OK," she said. "The first thing is to get them to higher education -- become doctors, teachers, educators. Then joining moqawama (resistance)."

As she spoke, Besma was surrounded by small boys, her sons and grandsons, ranging from toddlers to teens. Asked whether they wanted to become martyrs, the boys universally nodded yes. Besma smiled with a mix of pride and resignation.

"I'm still a mother. Of course this is hard for me," she said. "But when I think about the history of Palestinians, we got kicked from our land. We are even chased here. We are restricted from moving. ... It's obvious who started the attacks and who is the enemy. That's why they grow up learning revenge. Each martyr has a son or a brother or a daughter who misses them when they die. And they grow up wanting revenge."

Israel should release her son, and the other child prisoners, Besma said.

Abdel was pleased to hear that the fighting goes on. "Alhamdulillah!" he cried. Thank God, yes.

"I will not give up on one meter of Palestinian land," he said, dismissing any kind of road map or peace process. "If God helps us, we will destroy Israel."

And he went back to the Israeli cell he shares with another teenage prisoner to wait for the dubbed Japanese cartoons to end and hope to see one of his favorite action films on the television set he has in his cell.

Except he doesn't call them action films.

He calls them "killing movies."

E-mail Matthew B. Stannard at mstannard@sfchronicle.com.
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IFEN has learned that it is only Red Necks who drive trucks, swear, and are skin-head yobs who do not understand that Islam is the Religion of Peace:

Independent
(UK), February 16, 2003
"The show was over, recorded for one of those nice liberal local American TV cable channels – this time in Texas – where everyone agrees that war is wrong, that George Bush is in the hands of right-wing Christian fundamentalists and pro-Israeli neo- conservatives. Don Darling, the TV host, had just turned to thank me for my long and flu-laden contribution. Then it happened. Cameraman number two came striding towards us through the studio lights. 'I want to thank you, sir, for reminding us that the British had a lot to do with the chaos in the Middle East, he said. 'But I have something else to say.' His voice rose 10 decibels, his bare arms bouncing up and down at his sides, his shaven head struck forward pugnaciously. 'Yeah, I wanna tell you that the cause of this problem is the fucking medieval Arabs and their wish to enslave us all – and I tell you that it is because we want to save the Jews from the fucking savage Arabs who want to throw them into the sea that we are about to fuck Saddam.' There was a pause as Don Darling looked at the man, aghast. 'And that,' cameraman number two concluded, 'is the fucking truth.' Darling called to the studio manager. 'Where does this man come from?' he demanded to know. The lady from the University of Texas – organiser of this gentle little pow-wow – advanced on to the studio floor in horror: 'Who is this person?' I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. All of a sudden, our nice anti-war chat had been brought to a halt by a spot of redneck reality ... The people with whom these liberal academics should be building bridges are the truck-drivers and bell-hops and Amtrak crews, the poor blacks and the cops whose families provide the cannon fodder for America's overseas military adventures. But that, of course, would force intellectuals to emerge from the sheltered, tenured world of seminars and sit-ins and deal directly with those whose opinions they wish to change."
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IFEN has also learned that it is only smart people who know the Islam is the Religion of Peace:

"I am delighted that the leaders of the three major faith communities — Muslim, Jewish and Christian — have come to one mind on the importance of a two-state solution and on U.S. leadership for peace in the region," Kirkpatrick told the Presbyterian News Service. "This is clearly a moment of opportunity for peace in the Middle East, and I hope and pray that the Administration will seize the opportunity to join us in working for peace."

"Delay is not the way."

Majorities of Israelis and Palestinians desperately want the violence to end, not only because of the terrible toll on human life, but also because it is clear that peace with justice — that is, real security for Israelis and an end of occupation for Palestinians — can only be achieved by negotiations.

http://www.pcusa.org/pcnews/2005/05019.htm
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Smart people, Presbyterians in Pennsylvania, know that Islam is the Religion of Peace, and that moral equilevance is the only valid argument when dealing with stupid people.
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Mr. Lou S. Nowasielski, writing on the same date, at least calls the barbaric acts "tortures," but implies in an astonishing leap of illogic that the killings in Munich over 30 years ago, the hostage-taking in Iran over 20 years ago, the downing of Pan Am Flight 103, and other bombings including the World Trade Center, all somehow combine to justify the shameful acts by our soldiers. He then quotes several verses from the Qur'an with which he paints all the prisoners as radical Muslims who deserve such treatment.
Dan Mertz
.Milroy, Pa.
http://www.layman.org
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There has been much discussion at the IFEN office regarding the sincerity of the writer above, whether he is mocking Islam and the Prophet, (PBUH.) If this is true, we will kill ten innocent by-standers.

Said Stewart, a Presbyterian minister from Pennsylvania, "Cut off my head if I'm wrong, but real security for Israelis and an end of occupation for Palestinians — can only be achieved by negotiations. 'Delay is not the way.'

"But enough of that. How do you like my shoes?"
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[Shhh. There's a bum sleeping on the parkbench at this address. Let's not disturb him.]

Welcome to my park bench from which we can notice and discuss the traces and signs of God's presence and activity in the center of Tarentum, Pennsylvania. Have a seat. Relax and take a look around. Something big is happening, and you are invited to participate.

At Friday, August 12, 2005 12:41:15 PM, Anonymous said...

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Well, the writer above was probably a blogger in Pennsylvania who didn't like Stewart's shoes. Please be nice to him. Stewart wants world peace.

Otherness and the Hegemonic View

In our discussions on ideology of Left dhimmi fascism we have neglected to provide our readers with art blurbs. For shame! The following piece deconstructs in a dense yet vacuuous fashion how we of the West fail to understand the complexities of Otherness, and in our hegemonic ideological state of false consciousness misinterpret and devalue Otherness. Far be it from us to cloud any important issue with capitalist mystifications. No, dear reader, you can have a go at it yourself:

It is clear to those who are following the contemporary artistic production in the Arab world (or rather in certain Arab cities) that this production is more preoccupied with the seductiveness of ideas rather than the creation of (aesthetical) forms. There is a growing awareness among artists that critical ideas cannot be channeled by the not-so-old media (at least in this region of the world) of painting or sculpture, and that these engender a passive audience rather than active subjects. So in a way these works can be viewed as social utterances requiring, and shaped by, the answers they anticipate; their elements are interchangeable, be they photographs, drawings, diagrams, or texts.

That said, it would be useful to note that, on the one hand, mass-produced images of any "third-world" society have their references in the West, in an ever-expanding, globalized world, and that on the other hand, signifiers do not necessarily carry the same signified, as an essence encapsulated in them....

In that sense, when the work is "transported" to Europe (because of an interest that will eventually dwindle - no illusions here), a double effort must be made: it is no surprise to anyone that the "West" already has a "system of reception", a web of ideas about what the "East" is about, what it should be, and what it is expected to say; a web of ideas, I dare say, that is a direct descendant of the old Orientalist discourse that doesn't seem to subside. It is these ideas that prompted certain US scholars after the events of 9/11 to read or to recommend reading the Qur'an, truly believing that it would provide an insight into Arab societies.

These ideas also generate situations that are awkward, to say the least. The mild and badly concealed surprise on someone's face when an Arab artist makes a reference to Walter Benjamin, for instance; or the misreading of a particular work by the most well-intended person, because of the pre-supposition that a critical utterance articulated by a westerner vis-à-vis an Arab society (on the basis of Universal Human Rights for example) must necessarily coincide with the critical utterances articulated by a person actually living in that society.

http://www.universes-in-universe.de/islam/eng/2003/03/chakar/index.html
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Yes dear reader, you know now how Islamophobic we all are. After being so vividly exposed to the truth we understand that you will no longer care to soil your eye-beams by reading anything further at this blog. Well, we will continue because we're stupid and we're baby killers. No, not the kind who send children to explode themselves in public places, we mean the other kind, the Imperialist kind. We're just too evil to change our ways; and besides, it's the system we live in that makes us think the way we do. It ain't our fault, man.

Presbyterian Minister Tops Charts with Cover Tune.



















In what was originally a karaoke session in a small, somewhat stinking church basement in rural Pennsylvania, a surprise phenomenon has burst out to take the West by storm. A Presbyterian minister, secretly taped by a non-member of the congregation, has made his way onto the Internet airwaves covering one of the anthems of Divestment of Portfolio rock.

Said the now-famous singer, known only as Heck, " I used to sit on my parkbench singing about the poor and bull-dozed, and this song was my favorite. I guess I just have a natural talent for singing this song. God knows, the other tune I sing sounds like nothing more than a shrill whine. I dedicated this version to the dead babies murdered by the Hated Zionist Entity. I can sign it for you if you'd like me too."

So here he is, ladies and gentlemen, Pennsylvania's very own-- HECK!

"Creep"
Radiohead
- February, 1993

When you were here before
Couldn't look you in the eye
You're just like an angel
Your skin makes me cry
You float like a feather
In a beautiful world
And I wish I was special
You're so fuckin' special

But I'm a creep, I'm a weirdo.
What the hell am I doing here?
I don't belong here.

I don't care if it hurts
I want to have control
I want a perfect body
I want a perfect soul
I want you to notice
When I'm not around
You're so fuckin' special
I wish I was special

But I'm a creep, I'm a weirdo.
What the hell am I doing here?
I don't belong here.

She's running out again,
She's running out
She's run run run running out...

Whatever makes you happy
Whatever you want
You're so fuckin' special
I wish I was special...

But I'm a creep, I'm a weirdo,
What the hell am I doing here?
I don't belong here.
I don't belong here.

http://www.songlyrics.co.nz/lyrics/r/radiohead/creep.htm

Friday, August 12, 2005

Islamic Flat Earth News











 

PCUSA Sues Zionist Entity for Death of Prophet Brian

A minister from Pennsylvania announced today that the Presbyterian Church of the United States of America is sueing the Hated Zionist Entity for murdering Brian, a little known but important Muslim prophet.

Said the minister, Andrew al-Dhimmi, "First the Jews killed Jesus, then they started killing Palestinian children, and now they've killed Brian! We have had enough of them. We're going to sue. We're taking them to the World Court at The Hague, and we hope the Joooos find themselves in a cell next to Hitler and Stalin. Well, maybe not Stalin but other ucky-yicky people. They're rude, too."

Al-Dhimmi said he is not in touch with Hizballah members but wishes they would keep it quiet. He says the money coming for the court case is directly not from Prince Turki al-Faisal but from the peace-loving-peoples-of-the-world.

"The Joooos," he said. " The Joooos. They killed Brian!"


A gentle reminder that my book, An Occasional Walker, is available at the link here:
http://www.amazon.com/Occasional-Walker-D-W/dp/0987761501/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1331063095&sr=1-1
And here are some reviews and comments on said book:
http://nodhimmitude.blogspot.com/2012/04/dagness-at-noon.html

The Grief Leeches

Whenever virtue declines and unrighteousness rises, I manifest Myself as an embodied being. To protect the Saints and Sages, to destroy the evil-doers and to establish Dharma (righteousness), I am born from age to age.
-Bhagavad Gita 4.7 and 4.8
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It's our position here that Modernity is the best thing that's happened to Humanity in the past 5,000 years, since the beginning of the Argricultural Revolution. We feel that Modernity, its the triune revolutions of the American, French, and the Industrial Revolutions, must spread across the face of the Earth to the benefit of all people universally-- without exception. We argue here that the resistence to Modernity needs be countered by force until Moderity is triumphant.

We argue here that Modernist men and women must of their own volition colonize the primitive world and conquer its people, after the prior example of William Walker. Not everyone agrees. Some resist the very notion that Modernity is good. Some argue that Modernity is bad. Others argue that we not only should not invade other people's lands but that they should invade ours to make us behave acording to tribal customs of 7th century Arabia and Islam. Here, instead, one will find sympathy for our military men and women who defend us and our societies, those who further the defence of all people for the sake of freedom and personal security. We are, in short, in favor of our war. Others are not.
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By David Pastor May, 26, 2005

As Cindy Sheehan is interviewed by Univision's reporter Xochitl Arellano, Army Spc. Casey Sheehan name is read aloud at Sacramento's Trinity Episcopal Cathedral. When she hears her son's name Cindy Sheehan is overcome by emotion. Her hand covers her mouth, her eyes close in grief as her head turns down towards her son's very own boots, she stops talking to Arellano.

Sheehan, 47 from Vacaville, and the reporter are kneeling down amid 171 empty boots representing the armed services personnel from California killed in the Iraq war. California is the state with most casualties in Iraq.

The rank, name, and birth state of the 1, 529 US service men and women killed continues to be read as part of the Eyes Wide Open exhibition. The names are read one by one along the names of the identified killed Iraqis. The process will last for hours.

After pausing for a few seconds Sheehan continues the interview, one of the very many she has given since a year ago her oldest son Casey was killed in Iraq.

This image of Sheehan unfortunately has become a familiar one for many of you. You might have seeing her at Good Morning America in inauguration day, you could have seen her watery eyes in a picture at the San Francisco Chronicle, or in the front cover of The Nation magazine, or perhaps you have seen her addressing the President on her election time TV ad for Moveon.org.

Arellano commented on the impression Sheehan caused on her. At first she didn't know why, at the middle of the interview, she suddenly stopped talking, fighting tears. But then Sheehan explained her that her son's name had just been read. Arellano said that she was emotionally moved when Casey Sheehan's mother told her, "wars will stop when women are in power."
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Cindy Sheehan has also been traveling since late Spring last year. She has joined the exhibit in around the 10 occasions, when her other activism and public commitments allowed her. When the exhibit was in Northern California she had the opportunity of staying at home for about a week, the most that she has spend there for the last months. She had so many public engagement that she even lost her job due to her activism. She said about the reason why she speaks out. "To make sense of his death I have to try to stop the war."

[S]he has started a support organization called Gold Star Families for Peace - in reference to the Gold Stars awarded for the killed in action. The organization, that has more than 70 military families as members, is a resource center for the military and their families.

Sheehan has seen the local support for her family decline since she started being active against the war. She said that even though a couple of hundred people attended her sons funeral now their friends don't even call them. She also has seen opposition to her cause in local newspapers editorials and letters to the editor....

Patrick Sheehan, Cindy Sheehan husband, supports his wife in her activism, he participates in some events and drives with Cindy when he is not working as a sales representative. He spoke about the toll this work is taking in the family. "If she is not away traveling or speaking, she is home with her laptop, watching news, or talking on the phone…This is important, we try to continue to support her."

But he also understands that it is hard for her to be around the memories all the time. "Some times I am not sure if it is helping [the grief process] It might be delaying some of her grief, but it's also a very good reason to get out of bed, get up and get moving."

Once again Cindy Sheehan will surely fight back tears as she talks about her son and the war. This Sunday will be a very special day for her, a day no mother can ever forget. The day she saw her first son's face for the first time.

This is the very same day when 26 years ago Casey Sheehan took his first breath of air, starting the life Cindy had given him, one year ago last month he would take his last breath in Iraq.

You can find more information about Gold Star Families for Peace and Cindy and Casey Sheehan at http://www.GSFP.org

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What One Mom has to Say to Bush
By MIKE FERNER

"That lying bastard, George Bush, is taking a five-week vacation in time of war," Cindy Sheehan told 200 cheering members of Veterans For Peace at their annual convention in Dallas last Friday evening. She then announced she would go to Bush's vacation home in nearby Crawford, Texas and camp out until he "tells me why my son died in Iraq. I've got the whole month of August off, and so does he."

Sheehan left the VFP meeting on Saturday morning and is now in Crawford with a couple dozen veterans and local peace activists, waiting for Bush to talk with her. She said in Dallas that if he sends anyone else to see her, as happened when national security adviser Steve Hadley and deputy White House chief of staff Joe Hagin did later that day, she would demand that "You get that maniac out here to talk with me in person."
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"And the other thing I want him to tell me is 'just what was the noble cause Casey died for?' Was it freedom and democracy? Bullshit! He died for oil. He died to make your friends richer. He died to expand American imperialism in the Middle East. We're not freer here, thanks to your PATRIOT Act. Iraq is not free. You get America out of Iraq and Israel out of Palestine and you'll stop the terrorism," she exclaimed.

"There, I used the 'I' word – imperialism," the 48 year-old mother quipped. "And now I'm going to use another 'I' word – impeachment – because we cannot have these people pardoned. They need to be tried on war crimes and go to jail."

As the veterans in Dallas rose to their feet, Sheehan said defiantly, "My son was killed in 2004. I am not paying my taxes for 2004. You killed my son, George Bush, and I don't owe you a penny...you give my son back and I'll pay my taxes. Come after me (for back taxes) and we'll put this war on trial."

The co-founder of Gold Star Mothers for Peace objected to hearing that her son was among the soldiers lost in Iraq. "He's not lost," she said tearfully. "He's dead. He became an angel while I was sleeping."
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www.counterpunch.org/ferner08092005.html
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One might well have sympathy for a grieving mother. One might have sympathy for Muslims commenting on the progress or lack thereof of Westernism in the world at large.:

From the Muslim point of view we get the following wit and wisdom, via www.jihadwatch.org.:

"Oh, this is my business."

No, it has nothing to do with you. That's one thing I can't stand about Americanos, they seem to think they know what is best for everyone. You mind your own business, oh arrogant one.

Help Africa, give back the things you stole. Free the slaves you have across the World, help those that live in the fattest city in the World, Houston, USA. Sort your own country out, there are areas of your country that are like 3rd world Countries. Do that before you make silly statements.

Posted by: ia786 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 12, 2005 02:24 PM

Again you dodge the issue and run in circles, look at what is happening in the World, look at the hate America has got for itself across the World, why?? What is the cause??

"Have you ever done any research on Islamic slave ownership, ia? It is still approved of by your clergy and your holey books."

Really, I'm glad I improved your day, God is Great.

Stop running in circles.

Now back to what I said, Americanos still have slaves, especially in the Far East. Slavery is alive today and the Americans are bringing only more and more misery to the vulnerable people. Why is America spreading White supremacy across the World, why does America aim to hold other non-White people back, please tell me.

HasbinAllahwanaymulwakeel.

"Why are Americanos so arrogant, why do you think you should dictate how others should live their lives. Tell me, I want to know.

Posted by: ia786 at August 12, 2005 03:05 PM

Answer the question.

Why should the rest of the World have to bow down before the US. I hate that American attitude, it makes me sick. You just mind your own business, sort your own country out. Oh yeah, while your doing that stop murdering, looting and poisoning the rest of the World, got that??

Posted by: ia786 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 12, 2005 03:41 PM

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No, not everyone seems to apreciate the sacrifices our people make for the spread of Human decency. Some who've lost family members to war have turned toward hatred and express their grief in public. One can almost sympathize.
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There is a mother grieving in the desert, crying for her dead child. Grief is as old as Humanity, and we'd be less than Human if we were to cease feeling it's pain. A mother grieves in a desert for her son who died in a desert far away. The man died in the land of Gilgamesh.

The world's oldest known book comes from the land where the young man died. The Epic of Gilgamesh in part tells the story of him and his friend Inkidu who fight the monster that threatens them. Inkidu dies from his wounds after the battle. Gilgamesh is stricken for the first time in his life by grief. He knows death. He looks at his friend's body and asks:

"Must I too, like my friend, lay me done, never to rise again?"

Gilgamesh wanders to the Cedars of Lebannon searching for eternal life, which he finds-- and loses. There's nothing good about dying young, nothing good in witnessing the death of ones loved-ones. It is ocassion for grief.

In the desert a woman is grieving for her dead child. Others have joined her. They are not with her to share her grief. They join her to hate those they feel have caused the death of a young man and many others like him, the deaths of many from the land of Gilgamesh, and the deaths of countless people across the face of the Earth, dead, killed by the hand of America.

But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in a battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all, "We died at such a place," some swearing, some crying for a surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left. I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the king that led them to it.

William Shakespeare, Henry V

All the world's a stage, and a mother's son becomes a prop to mourn before an audience, chorus weeping, faces twisted, fists shaking, voices rasping: "Bush lied; people died."

"Root cause, root cause, root cause...."

Not a word for the man. No one says he died, like others died, like others will die, because life is for the living:

Go and tell the Spartans, stranger passing by,
That here, obedient to their laws, dead we lie.

Simonides of Ceos (556-468BC) - Epitaph on the monument marking the Battle of Thermopylae (480 BC)
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We had a little bit of trouble with locals today. We are beginning to feel a little unwelcome here. One lady almost ran over a film crew that was filming a commercial today. She screamed at us that the neighbors are really mad at ...so we moved down the road to our closest neighbor who is very sweet. Her husband is a medic who just got home from Iraq.

Again, I did tons of interviews. It looks like I will be on the cover of People Magazine. Time Magazine, Vanity Fair and Oprah's magazine will be interviewing me also.

Due to the generosity of you all, the Crawford Peace House has gotten over 30,000 dollars and GSFP has gotten a lot of donations too. I got about 2 and a half dozen bouquets of flowers from all over everywhere. I am so amazed and overwhelmed by the support and love we are getting from everywhere.

http://sacramentofordemocracy.org
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[Gorgo,]"when asked by a woman from Attica: 'Why are you Spartan women the only ones who can rule men?' said: 'Because we are the only ones who give birth to men.'"
Plutach on Spartan Women.
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We have in our lives a sickness that is spreading across our lands, a sickness of ourselves. We have in us a hatred of life that is a death-worship. Some of us call it peace.

We are marching toward our civil war. Some of us will fight for life for the living, and some of us will choose the side of death. We who choose to fight, we who die in battle, we will fight and die for the lives of the living. If we perish from this Earth, still, I call it peace.
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The Gettysburg Address

Gettysburg, Pennsylvania
November 19, 1863

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
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Why do the young die while the fat cats and robber barons feast on oil and caviar? Why are young men and women, the people of Iraq and Palestine, dying by the thousands just so the rich can get richer? We are the people. It's rich men, white men, fascist men in the White House who send young men and women to kill and die for oil.

But I remember war, and none of my comrades died for anything like oil or another man's riches. No, as I recall it we fought for life, and not just our own. Some of our mates died. Some were maimed. Some got drunk. But maybe somewhere someone today goes to school because mine died. Maybe somewhere far away life is for the living and not the brutal bastards who killed with impunity for sport and madness. Maybe we did good. Because of the dead, maybe the living, living at all, live better.
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The Supreme Lord said: I am death, the mighty destroyer of the world, out to destroy. Even without your participation all the warriors standing arrayed in the opposing armies shall cease to exist.

Therefore, get up and attain glory. Conquer your enemies and enjoy a prosperous kingdom. All these (warriors) have already been destroyed by Me. You are only an instrument, O Arjuna.

Bhagavad Gita, chapter 11, verses 31-33
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A mother's grief is a hard load to bear. It bends the man. It can drive him to his knees. Mothers lose their sons to more than death. Mothers lose their sons to manhood.
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"What will you do if Karna is able to kill me?" Arjuna asked Krishna. Krishna smiled and replied, "The sun will fall, the earth shatter into a thousand fragments, and fire lose its heat before he kills you. But if he does, it is a sign that the end of the world has come. As for me, I shall kill him with my bare hands."
-Mahabharata, Book Eight: Karna (P. Lal)
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Some of us who've lost our friends are driven to our knees with nothing left to us to clasp but our bare hands. Must we too, like the men we killed, lay us down, never to rise again? Must we never raise our eyes and see the good we did for those who could do nothing for themselves? Must we forever walk through the field of the dead and hold our peace like a coin we fear to spend for fear we'll never earn another? I don't love my enemies. I don't love death. But I don't love life so dearly that I'm willing to deprive others of it because I fear for myself. No, like most men who know a need to fight for those who can't fight to save themselves we have a will to live to keep the living alive. Mine and our friends were plain men in just war. You mightn't know any one of them by name. Even their mothers won't recall them as well as the living do they saved. The dead didn't die like hereos, they didn't die for glory. They died for boring, silly things in the lives of others, for the simple existence of their fellows' simple lives, as boring and silly as they are.

Is it important who won and who lost? Won't it all happen yet again? Isn't it all pointless and inhuman? Isn't it all a plot to enrich the rich yet more?

Only the dead have seen the end of war.
George Santayana.
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In the desert a woman sits mourning her dead son. If only he'd died for some reason. If only he hadn't died for the sake of Haliburton getting contracts to sell Iraqi oil to enrich the capitalists feeding off the blood of the workers!

Around that mother gather those who wish to wail for the cameras too.
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The house where the dead dwell in total darkness,
Where they drink dirt and eat stone,
Where they wear feathers like birds,
Where no light ever invades their everlasting darkness,
Where the door and the lock of Hell is coated with thick dust.
When I entered the House of Dust,
On every side the crowns of kings were heaped,
On every side the voices of the kings who wore those crowns,
Who now only served food to the gods Anu and Enlil,
Candy, meat, and water poured from skins.
I saw sitting in this House of Dust a priest and a servant,
I also saw a priest of purification and a priest of ecstasy,
I saw all the priests of the great gods.
There sat Etana and Sumukan,
There sat Ereshkigal, the queen of Hell,
Beletseri, the scribe of Hell, sitting before her.
Beletseri held a tablet and read it to Ereshkigal.
She slowly raised her head when she noticed me
She pointed at me:
"Who has sent this man?"
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Gilgamesh seeks eternal life. He wants his friend back. He doesn't want to die. He intrudes upon the realm of death itself looking for eternal life. And when he finds it, he loses it, because such is the lot of Man. Does he like it?

O woe! What do I do now, where do I go now?
Death has devoured my body,
Death dwells in my body,
Wherever I go, wherever I look, there stands Death!

No, death is not for the living.

For whom have I labored?
For whom have I journeyed?
For whom have I suffered?
I have gained absolutely nothing for myself,
I have only profited the snake, the ground lion!

Is that it? Is our death only to be used as a prop for actors in a play for television? Are the dead only food for the grief leeches?

Some of us, bowed down on our knees under the burden of grief and in a state of exultation, remember that today we fought, and tomorrow others will have to fight again for the same ground we won before them. Bitter though we might be, we will lay ourselves down, never to rise again. And that will have been us.

Whenever virtue declines and unrighteousness rises, I manifest Myself as an embodied being. To protect the Saints and Sages, to destroy the evil-doers and to establish Dharma (righteousness), I am born from age to age.
-Bhagavad Gita 4.7 and 4.8
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Submission, Aporia, and Ideology.

Where do they get their ideas?


We know that Muslims are brainwashed from day one till the end by endless repetition from loud-speakers at every mosque five times per day, and that the brain-washing is strickly Islam. But where on Earth do normal and otherwise sane Westerners get the nonsense ideas they parrot? It comes out of a can, out of ideology, prepakaged and pre-digested for those either too stupid to think or too busy to think for themselves. Sometimes it's a matter of people knowing the ideology is false and out-right evil but people are afraid to object for fear of being shunned by those around them. We'll look here at Islam as a total way of life, compare it briefly with aporia, and then look at ideology itself. In part tow of this installment we'll look at aporia as ideology.


Reading just one sura from the Koran, for example sura two, gives a good idea of the over-all sense of the temper of the Religion of Peace. As most readers here know quite well, it goes on and on, "Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them...," and so on.

Only the willfully blind can find any reason to deny the violent exhortations of Islam. And there are many outside Islam who do. Mostly they are fascist Left dhimmis looking for an audience to whom to play there parts as "Heroes of the Oppressed." Some are Nazis, such as David Duke and his Stromfront gang. Many are ordinary Westerners who just want to keep their heads down and hope this all just goes away so we can all resume our normal lives without having to suffer any further discomfort. But for a billion or so Muslims, the Koran, the Ahadith, the Sira, the fiqh and fatwa are the ruling texts that create the total way of life for the average Muslim, and they don't and can't know anything else.

Below we've excerpted some kos from the second sura. Some dhimmis love to do the same kind of execise with the Bible or the Gita. Yes, it's an easy exercise. One can find examples to this day of Christians who use the Bible to justify their murderous rampages against abortion clinics and federal buildings in the West. The fact that those examples spring to mind instantly shows us that they're so profoundly at odds with our culture that they strike us almost as deeply as 9/11. We do not go onto the streets in our many millions cheering when a doctor or a nurse is murdered. We hunt down and kill a bomber who murders civilians in our cities. We are sickened and disgusted that anyone would use religious texts to try to justify acts of evil. Even the most disgusting of the worst among the "Right Wing Fundamentalist Christians" ranting on television don't parade their babies dressed in suicide/homocide bomb suits. They might well be bigoted and thunderously stupid, they are certainly intolerant and obsessive, but they do not, cannot send their children out to commit murder in the name of their religion. Nor would they want to. Krishna is as violent a character as one can find in any religious text, but Hindus are not psychotic murderers because of Hindu religious training. Muslims kill because of Islam.

Are Muslims generally poor and oppressed? Yes, and they can thank themselves for it, not the evil West's colonialism. Napoleon's arrival at Alexandria in 1798 was the first good thing to happen to dar al-Islam. They require more such events. They require total submission to the West. Do they want it? Will they beg us for it?

The quotations below are a fair sample of the entirety of the Koran. In the pieces that follow we'll look at the differences between Islam and the West, and we'll see how dhimmis on the fascist Left are reifiying the evils of Islam in the West for the sake of furthering the fascism of countermodernity.
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In chapter 2 'The Cow'

Don't bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has blinded them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 2:6

Allah has sickened their hearts. A painful doom is theirs because they lie. 2:10

Allah has blinded the disbelievers. 2:17-18

A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24

Disbelievers will be burned with fire. 2:39, 90

Allah stamped wretchedness upon the Jews because they killed the prophets and disbelieved Allah's revelations. 2:61

Allah turned Sabbath breakers into apes. 2:65-66

Allah has cursed them for their unbelief. 2:88

The curse of Allah is on disbelievers. 2:89

Jews are the greediest of all humankind. 2:96

Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers. 2:98

Only evil people are disbelievers. 2:99

For disbelievers is a painful doom. 2:104

For unbelievers: ignominy in this world, an awful doom in the next. 2:114

Disbelievers are losers. 2:121

Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126

Those who reject the proofs, are accursed of Allah. 2:159

Those who die disbelievers, are cursed by Allah, angels, and men. 2:161

The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162

They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167

Disbelievers will be deaf, dumb, and blind. 2:171

Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 2:174

How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 2:175

Believers must retaliate. Those who transgress will have a painful doom. 2:178

Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. 2:191

Fight them until "religion is for Allah." 2:193

War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216

Those who die in their disbelief will burn forever in the Fire. 2:217

Intermarriage is forbidden. 2:221

The disbelievers, they are the wrong-doers. 2:254

Disbelievers worship false gods. The will burn forever in the Fire. 2:257

Allah does not guide disbelievers. 2:264

"Give us victory over the disbelieving folk." 2:286

http://p4h.humanists.net/
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"Peace is mentioned 87 times in the Koran, and so what? The Medinan kos are abrogated in favor of the Meccan kos. That's the way it is. Will you find a Muslim who'll tell you that? Yes, bin Laden and company will tell you so. Those who won't are following the time-honored and Allah-required tradition of taqiyya. Islam is final. Islam is total. Get used to it.
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Surrender

This is understood from a verse in the Holy Quran
where Allah says:
"Inda deena inda lahi Islam." (Certainly, the only acceptable way which Allah will accept is Islam).
[Holy Quran 3:19]
This submission requires a fully conscious and willing effort to submit to the one Almighty God.

Submission

"But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you (Muhammad, peace be upon him) as a judge in all disputes between them, and find no resistance against your decisions, and accept (the decisions) with full submission." [Holy Quran 4:65]

Total submission is required after the surrender and some terms have to be set forth by Allah to be understood by the Muslim. There can be no option in the matter as Allah says in another verse,
"It is not fitting for the believing man nor for the believing woman, that whenever Allah and His Messenger have decided any matter, that they should have any other opinion."
[Holy Quran 33:36]

Whatever Allah and His Messenger have set out as being the Way of Islam is incumbent on the believer, man or woman to follow completely. One must consciously and conscientiously give oneself to the service of Allah.

"And obey Allah and His Messenger."

[Holy Quran 3:132]

"O you who believe! Obey Allah and His Messenger and those of you who are in authority. If you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger, if you believe in Allah and in the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for final determination." [Holy Quran 4:59]

"He who obeys the Messenger has indeed obeyed Allah, but he who turns away, then we have not sent you as a watcher over them."
[Holy Quran 4:80]


This means to act on what Allah enjoins all of us to do (in the Qur'an) and what His beloved Prophet, Muhammad (pbuh) encouraged us to do in his Sunnah (his lifestyle and sayings personifying the Qur'an).
After surrendering your free will to Allah and then ratifying the terms and conditions of the surrender, it is obligatory for the Muslim to live up to his terms of the bargain. It is his or her responsibility to do their best to obey the orders of Allah set forth in the Holy Quran and the teachings of the Holy Prophet, peace be upon him.

http://www.islamtomorrow.com/
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We don't bother ourselves here with the lunacies of the fascist Right: they are so far from being able to communicate rationally that it's not worth the time and effort to argue with them. And if one did argue and even get them to return to reason, what's the point? One lunatic on your side. Who needs it? It's our position here that most Westerners are rational and decent people who are too busy and too involved in daily activities to concern themselves with the possibility of losing everything they value. They won't act of their own volition, no more so than the Drowned in the lager, as Primo Levi calles them. Thus, we move on to those who are the Saved.

In the West of Modernity, the enlightened West that the fascist Left dhimmis are so happy to destroy for the sake of their own vanities, we have a tradition of our own, and it is of aporia. We get it from the Greeks. We must keep it for ourselves first, but we must extend it to every man, woman and child across the Earth. It is freedom:

aporia - Wonder and amazement before the confusing puzzles and paradoxes of our lives and of the universe. Socrates and the other ancient philosophers tried to evoke the philosophic spirit in young men by awakening their aporia, not by simply providing answers to these puzzles.

http://www.california.com/
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What does the world get in the name of Allah? This:

Islam is from Allah, The Creator and Sustainer of all that exists. As such, it is for Him Alone to command and direct His creation and He Alone is responsible for what He will accept and what He will not accept. It is also for Him Alone to decree what is good and what is bad and He must be the One to show the right path in all things.

Everything in the life of the creations of Allah, especially for those who have choices to make (us), must be dictated and clarified by the One who Created everything in the fist place. We understand from this that Islam must be a complete and total way of living, explaining everything in the life from beginning to end and from birth until death.

Islam is careful to remind us that it not a religion to be paid mere lip service; rather it is an all-encompassing way of life that must be practiced continuously for it to be Islam.

There are other injunctions and commandments which concern virtually all facets of one's personal, family and civic life. These include such matters as diet, clothing, personal hygiene, interpersonal relations, business ethics, responsibilities towards parents, spouse and children, marriage, divorce and inheritance, civil and criminal law, fighting in defense of Islam, relations with non-Muslims, and so much more.

In conclusion, we are forced to realize that ISLAM is a complete way of life for the human being. Everything is covered in Islam from birth to death to live in the complete submission to the Will of the One Who Created man in the first place.

http://www.islamtomorrow.com/
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Most readers here know this line inside and out. Many of our fascist dhimmi Leftists know it too, and they don't care. They'd rather pose for each other as whatever the lastest pseudo-intellectual fashion requires of them for this day. Muslim fascists, Left dhimmi fascists, whimmi fascists, none of them care at all for aporia. They are solely interested in toeing the party line for the sake of conforming to the norms and dictates of fashionabilty.

How is it that the Left has come to be fascist? That is what we try to discover here by looking into the history of fascism in the West. Once we read the history of fascism we find that much of what we assume to be good, much of which might be good, is rooted in fascist ideology. Maybe we should be fascists. We should know explicitly what fascism is, though, before we agree or disagree with it's tenets. We should know the cliches and the ideologies of fascism before we think we know what we think. If we, as free-thinking and mature adults are to reach conclusions in our own lives rather than submitting to proto-fascist tribal rituals from 7th century Arabia, then we must look at where our ideas come from and why we think as we do. We have to look at the history of our own fascism, and there we will see the hatred of the Modernity and our triune Revolutions at work and play. The Left is fascist. The Left ideology of today is submissive to ideology as is the average Muslim to Islam.

Rather than continue on here at greater length today we'll continue next day with a look at the roots of ideology in the West.

Thursday, August 11, 2005

The Attitude of Whimmitude

















The four creatures who beat and raped Linda and her friend are subjects for the police to attend to. Even if men had happened upon the rapists in the act and had rightly killed them on the spot it really isn't going to make any real difference in the struggle against fascist Islam and fascist dhimmitude. Our struggle isn't against Moslems: Our struggle is against fascist Islam and fascist dhimmitude. Our struggle is against attitude.
Our struggle is against men and women holding the idea that it's ok to rape and beat and kill women if the Koran says it's so, or if it's part of the culture, or if the moon is in Virgo that day, or one ate too many Twinkies. The attitude that everything is permitted means that some people do things that we cannot allow. And if we allow them to do the impermisssable with impunity they continue, they do more, they do worse, and they'll eventually get around to everyone in some way or other, probably just by making your life miserably insecure even if yu're never attacked personally. Some things are not ok. Some things are BAD.

Below we have four takes on the attitude women have about Moslem women. So long as Westerners think it's a matter of cultural difference that Moslem women are imprisioned, humiliated, beaten, raped, and murdered by virtue of the poligion of Islam, then women everywhere are subject to the same treatment regardless of their lack of complicity in the violence inherent in Islam. There is no Muslim exceptionalism. Those who claim there is, like the sociologist below, are whimmis and fascists who would and do deny basic Human rights to those they pretend to champion. The fact is, the poseurs on the Left care for no one but themselves and the look of their pose in the eyes of those they pose for.

Our first look is at the state of Moslem women acording to Islam.
Next we look briefly at a discussion of the female body according to Moslem women themselves. We continue with an essay that objects to the standard party line that Musleim women benefit from Islam, and that Islam is the Religion of Respect for Women in "Yes it is Islamic. Don't apologize for it." You will have guessed that there comes after that an essay by a Western woman who does apologize from Islamic treatment of women, and it's really your fault for stupidly following the dictates of the capitalist system. And finally, an essay by a woman writing about the conditions of muslim women in Sweden.

Yes, for all their smugness and sacntimony, Europeans do have capital punishment. But it's multi-cultural, anti-rascist, Euro-capital punishment. We'll conclude our comments here.
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THE WOMAN IS 'AWRAH

Apart from the deficiencies of the woman, she is also has ten 'awrat. The Encyclopedia of Islam defines 'awrah as pudendum, that is "the external genitals, especially of the female. [Latin pudendum (literally) a thing to be ashamed of]"[25]

"Ali reported the Prophet saying: 'Women have ten ('awrat). When she gets married, the husband covers one, and when she dies the grave covers the ten."[26]

And according to the following Hadith, women not only have ten 'awrat, but the woman herself is perceived as 'awrah :

"The woman is 'awrah. When she goes outside (the house), the devil welcomes her."[27]

(This Hadith is classed as 'Sahih' that is sound or faultless.) So going outside the house is a form of exposure of the 'awrah; a thing that delights the devil.
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MEN'S SUPERIORITY

The Qur'an expresses the equality of the works of the sexes and the oneness of origin of the sexes in the following verses.

"And their Lord answereth them, 'I will not suffer the work of him among you that worketh, whether of male or female, to be lost. The one of you is the issue of the other." (Q. 3:195) Rodwell.

"Mankind fear your Lord, who created you of a single soul, and from it created its mate." (Q. 4:1) Arberry

So while the Qur'an holds the works of men and women in equal regard and acknowledges that they are completely interdependent as to their very existence, they are not regarded as having equal worth as people. The men are a step above the women and superior to them as is clear from the following two verses.

"And it is for the women to act as they (the husbands) act by them, in all fairness; but the men are a step above them."[7] (Q. 2:228) Rodwell "Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the other."(Q. 4:34) Dawood.

Another eminent Muslim thinker, Hadi Sabzevari, in his commentary on Sadr al-Mote'alihin wrote:

That Sadr ad-Deen Shirazi classifies women as animals is a delicate allusion to the fact that women, due to the deficiency in their intelligence and understanding of intricacies, and due to their fondness of the adornments of the world, are truly and justly among the mute animals [al-haywanti al-sa^mita]. They have the nature of beasts [ad-dawwa^b], but they have been given the disguise of human beings so that men would not be loath to talk to them and be compelled to have sexual intercourse with them. That is why our immaculate Law [shar'ina al-mutahhar] takes men's side and gives them superiority in most matters, including divorce, "nushuz," etc. (Quoted in Soroush, Abdolkarim, _Farbehtar az ideoloji_, Sera^t, Tehran, 1373 A.H.S.). [A.H.S. = After the Hegira, in Solar years].

The above is consistent with the authentic Hadith that says women are deficient in intelligence and religion. This belief has been accepted by Muslim scholars and writers for the past thirteen hundred years.

http://debate.domini.org
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The awrah of the Muslim woman amongst Muslim women
Posted byadministrator on Friday, August 20 @ 01:29:16 ??
Contributed by Anomynous

Compiled By :Abu Aqeela
Translated By : Abu Aqeela
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All praises to Allah, we praise Him and seek His Aid and His Forgiveness, we seek refuge in Allah from the evils of our ownselves and from the evils of our actions. I bear witness that there is none worthy of worship except Allah having no partners and I bear witness that Muhammad is His Slave and Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him)

To proceed:

That which you have before you is an attempt to bring about some clarity in regards to the issue of the Awrah of the muslim Woman amongst Muslim women & the Dancing of women (at gatherings such as Eid,Weddings,etc).

You will find within this short treatise, selective fataawa in regards to these two issues. It has also been separated in to two parts.

The awrah of the Muslim woman amongst Muslim women.
This section consists of the kalaam of our shaykh, Saalih ibn Foazaan ibn Abdullah al Foazaan(may Allah preserve him) in form of questions and answers (fataawa).

[Truncated. Ed.]

Re: The awrah of the Muslim woman amongst Muslim women (Score: 1)

by f.zora (zz@aol.com) on Thursday, December 09 @ 19:07:04 ??
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bismillahirahmanirahim,
Assalamualeikum and may Allah reward every muslims for spreading and reminding the Noble Path that is Islam.

I really want to say how deeply mooved i am from reading this article. For the subject is so important and the numbers of young women following these rules so few around myself. May Allah increase the numbers of Muslims , those who fear Allah and like only what pleases Him and Hate only what displeases Him. When i speak to some of my muslims friends about they clothing and the fact that music is harram, i often find myself laughed at.
And i had the hadiths that prooved what i advanced, as i tried to explain the reasons of these instructions about the awrah of women and why many activities that nowadays women do without fear of Allah th Almighty. Really he is sufficient to Hiself and the bad we do, surely we do it to our ownselves.
I as a young woman (i am 22) find it , so disgraceful and so lowstanding to wear tight clothes and to listen to music , or watch movies that are build on pure lies. About music and movies, i believe it can be a distraction that Shaytan can use during our Salat. And for that i protect myself. About tight clothes, to come back to our issue, i really don't understand what goes in some minds when ones are really aware of the gravity of their acts, saying they are fasting, praying and at the same time walking balancing there hips and showing off their awra. I will surely Incha'Allah, may Allah allow me to do so : try again to talk to the young muslims women i know about this very important issue. And this time take this article also as a support to my explanation.
because i know one can change, i used to wear such clothe when i was younger, but when i became aware of the facts, tried to change so much that alhamdulilah i began wearing hijab and large clothes so as to hide my body's shapes. i try to talk calmly about the way a muslim woman should behave, but some people are so arrogant i sometimes discourage myself.

May Allah Subhanna wa Ta�la bless the Prophet muhamed and his family, as well as the noble Sahabas that fought to protect and transmit the tradition of the messenger's(peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) Sunnah?

Wasalamualeikum warahmatul'Allahi wa Barakathuhu.

Sister Fatima Zohra Bint Muhamed Ali

http://sisters.islamway.com

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Yes, It is Islamic. Don't Apologize for It!

By Azam Kamguian

In the last few weeks, the Swedish society has been touched by the brutal and calculated murder of Fadima Sahindal; a young courageous woman who chose to live according to her will and paid the price by her life. In the last two months, two other young women in Denmark and Britain were killed by their fathers because of the honor of the family. Honor of men and the family took their lives. Honor killing is a tribal and Islamic practice prevalent in Islam- ridden countries and Muslim inhabited communities in the West. Being killed deliberately and brutally is, in fact, a price that victims pay to practice their minimal human rights such as how to dress, talk to men other than their male family members, live, work and study independently, and marry at will, or have voluntary sexual relations.

Hundreds of women get shot, burned, strangled, stoned, poisoned, beheaded or stabbed every year in Islam ridden countries because their male relatives believe their actions have soiled the family name. They die, so family honor may survive. According to this tribal and religious practice, woman is a man's possession and a reflection of his honor. It is the man's honor that gets tarnished if a woman is 'loose'. The murderers and their defenders refer to this verse of the Koran that allows husbands to beat their wives: "As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill - conduct, admonish them, refuse to share their beds, beat them", the Koran, chapter 4, verse 34. Honor killing is a tribal practice that has been incorporated in the religion of Islam, because of its anti - women nature and misogynist philosophy. And the law is usually on the man's side, not only in the Middle Eastern and the Central Asian countries, but shamefully, in the Western countries too. They often letting murderers go unpunished or with a light sentence.

According to this Islamic concept and tradition, from the early childhood, girls are taught about "eib", which means shame, and "sharaf", which means honor. And everywhere girls go are reminders that their most important mission in life is to remain virgin until they marry. Boys are also taught to have "ghayrat", meaning to be ardent. All these concepts are Islamic concepts, and that is why the killers always defend their acts of murder by these Islamic concepts. According to the UN statistics, the majority of these murders occur in the Islam - ridden countries and Muslin inhabited communities in the West.

Though, honor killing may seem not much surprising in societies such as Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Yemen, its occurrence is indeed shocking and shameful in the heart of Europe in the 21st Century. And that is where the reactionary idea of Cultural Relativism is put into practice to justify women's victimization by excusing Islam and backward traditions. Unfortunately, until recently which some measures were implemented by the Swedish government, this government not only neglected to protect the lives and the rights of these women, but also justified their murders under the name of respecting 'other' people's religion and culture. While the murderers have repeatedly and openly defend their act by referring to Islam and the Koran, the majority of feminists, the mainstream media and intellectuals try to explain these murders as the prevalent patterns of domestic violence against women in the Western societies. While the murderers, whether in the Middle Eastern countries or in the Muslim inhabited communities in the West, openly state that their act of murder are "crimes of honor", and that they are merely following the directions set down in their religious beliefs, both in the Koran and in the Bible, the apologetic Western intellectuals repeatedly assure us that it is not Islam and the backward traditions, it is the common pattern of violence that is happening to the Western women too.

Swedish intellectuals should show the honesty that is required and expected from intellectuals, by telling the truth, by siding with those innocent young women who were victimized and continue to be brutally victimized because of the Islamic and backward tradition. It is not acceptable to apologize for Islam and backwardness.

And as far as the Swedish government is concerned, there shouldn't be a different basis for people's right in the one and same society; in the Swedish society. All should be considered as Swedish citizens and equal before the law. The Swedish society is duty bound to safe guard and protect the rights of women and girls from Muslim origins. This could be done only by abolishing all the respective discriminatory laws against these girls and women. This could be done only when there is no respect, excuse and legal interpretation for the misogynist Islamic and traditional beliefs and practices.

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The image of Muslim women in the media is usually linked to Western imaginaries and reproduces the thinking necessary to perpetuate this perspective.

Women are often called upon to illustrate a preconceived cultural landscape that endorses the 'agreed paradigm of Islam in the West': distant, passive, exotic, victim, veiled, reacting to events instead of actively participating in them.

In the case of Muslim women there is a double prejudice, the product of an accumulation of contradictions: those derived from the differing media treatment of men and women, and those derived from a deep-rooted orientalist ideology about Islamic culture.

This situation creates and perpetuates negative stereotypes in public opinion, discriminating against Muslims settled in our countries, preventing our societies from experiencing solidarity with Muslim women. Hence, sometimes when we think we are supporting their emancipation, we are actually supporting those authoritarian powers responsible for their predicament as the targets of legal discrimination.

The result is that we are left with no understanding of modern lifestyles that do not necessarily depend on secularism for a delivery system. At times, our paternalism leads us to feeling sorry for women who are quite capable of defining themselves, despite their lives having been defined up until now either by Europe or by authoritarian regimes. At times, when we denounce the lack of equality for Muslim women, we forget to mention the way that men as well as women are deprived of their democratic rights in these societies. Sometimes we confine our sources of information to those who reflect our own cultural image or dress code. All this leads to a lack of understanding among most people, and encourages the formation of radical identity seeking among a minority.

Cultural plurality is based on the necessary knowledge of the Other as it is, not as we would like it to be. The media representation of women in Muslim countries, apart from its coverage of unacceptable acts of discrimination, mainly serves to perpetuate a set of cultural expectations that denigrate a vast and diverse cultural world. Irresponsible generalisations are made. Multi-dimensional realities are hidden. The forces for change that do exist are ignored. Testimonies and actors are very selective. And patriarchy in the Muslim world is presented as an extreme, immutable, almost exclusive case, the product of an irreversible cultural determinism.

But it may be that social change in Muslim societies, and the decline of patriarchal power, must spring from democratisation and development from within. Perhaps these societies must have the chance to define themselves, without having to be defined by the West.

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Islam, Political Islam and Women in the Middle East

Maryam Namazie

March 18, 2002

The situation of women living in Islam-stricken societies and under Islamic laws is the outrage of the 21st century. Burqa-clad and veiled women and girls, beheadings, stoning to death, floggings, child sexual abuse in the name of marriage and sexual apartheid are only the most brutal and visible aspects of women's rightlessness and third class citizen status in the Middle East.

This is Nothing but Islam

Apologists for Islam state that the situation of women in Iran and in Islam-stricken countries is human folly; they say that Islamic rules and laws practised in the Middle East are not following the true precepts of Islam. They state that we must separate Islam from the practice of Islamic governments and movements. In fact, however, the brutality and violence meted out against women and girls are nothing other than Islam itself. According to the Koran, for example, the fornicator must be flogged a hundred stripes (The Light: 24.2). Those who are guilty of an 'indecency' must be 'confined until death takes them away or Allah opens some way for them.' (The Women, 4.15). 'Men are the maintainers of women' and 'good' women are obedient. Those that men fear 'desertion', can be admonished, confined and beaten' (The Women, 4.34). Wives are a 'tilth' for men, which they can go into their 'tilth' when they like (The Cow, 2.223). Veiling is promoted in the Koran: 'O Prophet! Say to your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers that they let down upon them their over-garments' (The Clans, 33.59).

Apologists for Islam say that these verses have been misinterpreted. They go so far as to claim that there is gender equity in Islam and Islam respects the rights of women. Regarding the verse in the Koran sanctioning violence against women, they say that Islam only permits violence after admonishment and confinement and as a last resort. They say, since men would beat their wives mercilessly at that time, this is a restriction on men to beat women more mercifully (Women Living Under Muslim Laws, For Ourselves Women Reading the Koran, 1997). In a Gender Equity in Islam Web Site, this verse is explained in this way: 'In extreme cases, and whenever greater harm, such as divorce, is a likely option, it allows for a husband to administer a gentle pat to his wife that causes no physical harm to the body nor leaves any sort of mark. It may serve, in some cases, to bring to the wife's attention the seriousness of her continued unreasonable behaviour.' On the verse that says women are men's tilth, they say the Koran is encouraging sexuality, even though women are killed for expressing theirs (Women Living Under Muslim Laws, For Ourselves, Women Reading the Koran, 1997). Regarding the fact that women are not to judge or consult, one mullah from Qom using a female pseudonym says: "Or, Let's suppose that in other planets, women are stronger and more learned than men, do we accept their custom or do we reject it totally?" (Zanan 4 and 5). On the Gender Equity in Islam Web Site it states that 'Islam regards women's role in society as a mother and a wife as her most sacred and essential one. This may explain why a married woman must secure her husband's consent if she wishes to work. However, there is no decree in Islam that forbids women from seeking employment whenever there is a necessity for it, especially in positions which fit her nature best and in which society needs her most.'

These 'Islamic feminist' interpretations are an insult to our intellect and cannot be taken seriously. Islam has wreaked more havoc, massacred more women, and committed more holocausts than can be denied, excused, re-interpreted, or covered up with such feeble defences. Misogyny cannot be interpreted to be pro-woman even if it is turned on its head just as fascism, Zionism and racial apartheid cannot be interpreted to be pro-human. These are mere justifications for reactionary people who want to legitimise their beliefs and religion or reactionary states and movements with a vested interest in maintaining Islamic rules and laws. They apologize because even they don't want to associate with the outrages committed by Islam throughout the world. Nothing can hide the fact that Islam, like other religions, is anti-woman and misogynist and antithetical to women's rights and autonomy. [essay continues at link below.]

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