Yes, most Western "intellectuals" are painfully brave in the face of Christians who threaten -- oh well.
But give the media and the higher forms of our intelligentsia a shot at intellectual honesty, at personal morality in their public postions, in some kind of responsible social stance, and then, cowering in fear of each other, afraid they'll be scorned by their fellows as "uncool," they grovel like kicked dogs.
There is a valid point to make in not pushing people too far in our push to make our own points regarding Islam. With enough shrillness and hatred directed at Muslims there is the possiblity of radicalizing moderates who will simply give up moderation under threat and counter-hatred. Pushed and pushed, the moderate, even if he feels no love for the fascist Islamic poligion itself will feel that his identity is threatened to the point he sides with "his own" in the battle to preserve himself from the wave of war.
I am in that position regarding Christianity. I am not a church-goer, not really a nominal Christian. But.
But Islam and our Left fascist dhimmis have pushed the issue so far that my allies are the Christians who still hold Modernist, Progressive, Western values inherited from the Renaissance and the Enlightenment. They are, if not my sould-mates, definitely my closest allies in the struggle against dhimmitude and Left fascism.
The moderate Muslim must decide whether he, not she, given the nature of Islmaic life in practical terms, is free in the mind to abandon Islma as a value and to accept Modernity in its place. The pull toward ones upbringing is strong, and to abandon it is to lose ones life. There is another life in the flesh, of course, but ones personal life is over and must begin again. Few have that desire, and few still have the strength for it if they wish it.
We can see the problem clearly in current Persia where a great number of people are Modernist in some respects but still tied to the culture of Islam and its fascist Irrationality. They must either break free entirely from their masters and murder them like Zeus did Chronos and the Titans, or they will side with them and die en masse. The Iranian Modernists must take the place of their masters and freely do so by their own efforts to legitimize their rule in their own minds, or they will side with the traditions of life as they have been given them. And then they will die when we annihilate them whole.
There is a great deal of sympathy for those who will side through loyalty to their own under threat, but we cannot, either side, be sentimental. One will prevail, the other will die. Therefore, it is ffor the Modernist intellectual to decide if he will rule as a revolutionary Modernist in the sink-holes of Islma or if he will retain his family and tribal loyalties to his own group and ide with them. That is the razor's edge the person walks, and the time is coming when the sides will form with no one in the middle.
Are you a secularist willing to rule in a state of revolutionary Modernity or will you side with your primitivists whom you very likely despise, your own group, and with them go down in defeat out of loyalty?
Of cours cnn by showing the danish flag being put ablaze time after time is fanning the flames of hatred to the cross as it is in the danish flag,like the kkk they are cross burners and cnn approves encourage enflame on an on the cross burns amide cheers of the muslims.thus cnn is promotting hate.Sickening just sickening watching the cross burn .
Every human being has the capacity for both good and evil. Even the smallest child has that capacity.
That said, every human being has the capacity to change from the path they walk now, to a different path. People can and do change all the time.
I see nothing wrong with killing in self defense. But I do think that wholesale extermination of men, women, and children is wrong and would make us just as foul as the jihadists we fight.
Russel, you're not contributing greatly with that question.
My position, for what it's worth, is that the public thinkers of pre-Nazi Germany chose a path of intellectual Irrationality in reaction to the French and Western Enlightenment. They appealed to the basest instincts of the peasants and the lumpen-proletariat, and they corrupted the bughers with visions of racial and moral superiority for the simple sake of writing academic works.
We don't spend all of our time here putting up cartoons. If you'll search the archives you'll find numerous essays on the history of fascism, the main emphasis of this blog. It's fascinating reading but it will take you a graeat deal of time to get through it, and we're not done yet, this being a work in progress that develops as we have time.
The point is that if the Muslim intelligentsia follows a similar path to the that of 19th century Germany, then the ummah will arrive at a similar state in conclusion, the problem being for all of us that the umma is Stone Age primitive in oppostion to the Space Age. You can do the math.
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Of course, CNN will publish just about anything that mocks Christianity or makes fun of Jesus!
Yes, most Western "intellectuals" are painfully brave in the face of Christians who threaten -- oh well.
But give the media and the higher forms of our intelligentsia a shot at intellectual honesty, at personal morality in their public postions, in some kind of responsible social stance, and then, cowering in fear of each other, afraid they'll be scorned by their fellows as "uncool," they grovel like kicked dogs.
Shame. Shame on the lot of them.
Great banner there but don't limit the Burqa bit to 'the West', it kind of makes secular middle easterners like myself feel a bit left out
Hey anonymous...
You sure you don't want to move here? We're always happy to have sane people move here. It's the nutcases that we'd like to stay where they are...
HeatherRae
There is a valid point to make in not pushing people too far in our push to make our own points regarding Islam. With enough shrillness and hatred directed at Muslims there is the possiblity of radicalizing moderates who will simply give up moderation under threat and counter-hatred. Pushed and pushed, the moderate, even if he feels no love for the fascist Islamic poligion itself will feel that his identity is threatened to the point he sides with "his own" in the battle to preserve himself from the wave of war.
I am in that position regarding Christianity. I am not a church-goer, not really a nominal Christian. But.
But Islam and our Left fascist dhimmis have pushed the issue so far that my allies are the Christians who still hold Modernist, Progressive, Western values inherited from the Renaissance and the Enlightenment. They are, if not my sould-mates, definitely my closest allies in the struggle against dhimmitude and Left fascism.
The moderate Muslim must decide whether he, not she, given the nature of Islmaic life in practical terms, is free in the mind to abandon Islma as a value and to accept Modernity in its place. The pull toward ones upbringing is strong, and to abandon it is to lose ones life. There is another life in the flesh, of course, but ones personal life is over and must begin again. Few have that desire, and few still have the strength for it if they wish it.
We can see the problem clearly in current Persia where a great number of people are Modernist in some respects but still tied to the culture of Islam and its fascist Irrationality. They must either break free entirely from their masters and murder them like Zeus did Chronos and the Titans, or they will side with them and die en masse. The Iranian Modernists must take the place of their masters and freely do so by their own efforts to legitimize their rule in their own minds, or they will side with the traditions of life as they have been given them. And then they will die when we annihilate them whole.
There is a great deal of sympathy for those who will side through loyalty to their own under threat, but we cannot, either side, be sentimental. One will prevail, the other will die. Therefore, it is ffor the Modernist intellectual to decide if he will rule as a revolutionary Modernist in the sink-holes of Islma or if he will retain his family and tribal loyalties to his own group and ide with them. That is the razor's edge the person walks, and the time is coming when the sides will form with no one in the middle.
Are you a secularist willing to rule in a state of revolutionary Modernity or will you side with your primitivists whom you very likely despise, your own group, and with them go down in defeat out of loyalty?
Push has come to shove.
Of cours cnn by showing the danish flag being put ablaze time after time is fanning the flames of hatred to the cross as it is in the danish flag,like the kkk they are cross burners and cnn approves encourage enflame on an on the cross burns amide cheers of the muslims.thus cnn is promotting hate.Sickening just sickening watching the cross burn .
dag,
Every human being has the capacity for both good and evil. Even the smallest child has that capacity.
That said, every human being has the capacity to change from the path they walk now, to a different path. People can and do change all the time.
I see nothing wrong with killing in self defense. But I do think that wholesale extermination of men, women, and children is wrong and would make us just as foul as the jihadists we fight.
HeatherRae
Russel, you're not contributing greatly with that question.
My position, for what it's worth, is that the public thinkers of pre-Nazi Germany chose a path of intellectual Irrationality in reaction to the French and Western Enlightenment. They appealed to the basest instincts of the peasants and the lumpen-proletariat, and they corrupted the bughers with visions of racial and moral superiority for the simple sake of writing academic works.
We don't spend all of our time here putting up cartoons. If you'll search the archives you'll find numerous essays on the history of fascism, the main emphasis of this blog. It's fascinating reading but it will take you a graeat deal of time to get through it, and we're not done yet, this being a work in progress that develops as we have time.
The point is that if the Muslim intelligentsia follows a similar path to the that of 19th century Germany, then the ummah will arrive at a similar state in conclusion, the problem being for all of us that the umma is Stone Age primitive in oppostion to the Space Age. You can do the math.
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