Dutch fear terrorism ahead of new Koran film
"No Dutch broadcaster wants to show the new film, the Volkskrant newspaper reported on Thursday, meaning Wilders will probably launch it on the Internet and at a news conference in The Hague, tentatively scheduled for March 28, ANP reported."
Full story at al-Reuters.
Wilders promises to deliver. We shall see. And what shall we see? Very likely the savagery of Islam in full force yet again. And then more lies and dhimmitude from the media and our disgusting politicians. But, we will likely also see the rising of the people against such vile and odious behaviour on the part of our public intellectuals and political leaders. This, by a strange twist of life, is a great thing for those who wish to make our lives better and our societies stronger and safer. This is a great winnowing time.
The Netherlands: TV Shuns Anti-Islam Film
No Dutch television broadcaster is willing to show a short film critical of Islam and the Koran by the right-wing politician Geert Wilders, Radio Netherlands said on its Web site, citing a report in the newspaper De Volkskrant. Mr. Wilders's demand that the film be shown unedited and in its entirety is the biggest obstacle to its broadcast, the paper said, adding, "It now appears that the whole film, which lasts about 15 minutes, will not be seen on Dutch television." Mr. Wilders has said that he would also show the film on the Internet.
This story at the equally disreputable New York Times.
Below we see a few pieces of Islamic rubbish strewn about as usual, the first from "Joshua Cohen," a joke if there ever was one. Muslims seem to delight in pretending to be Jews who love Islam. Go figure. We end with a comment from Mark Alexander, author and commentator at numerous blogs of interest to those of us who care for this line of inquiry. But it doesn't end with Mark at all. No, it ends on a typical jarring note that I leave to the reader to laugh at. Comments below from the silliest paper in Britain, The Independent. Well, OK, it has a lot of competition.
"Quran a fascist book?? has Mr Wilders actually read it...what a farce. It has been the most intellectual and progressive book for the past 1400 years and continues to be so."
Posted by: Joshua CohenHi, Islam is a religion of peace and ask its followers to be merciful to everyone friends and enemy. But this message is not the weakness of Islam. We (muslims) have to be merciful to those who respect humanity but be harsh to those who create chaos in the world.
The world has been destroyed by western values that allow their allies to kill muslims all over the world (Palestine, India, Afghanistan, East taimor, Kosovo, Bosnia and Somalia) but once muslims retaliate they become militants and terrorists.
Western values include justice for all as well but why not this value is universal and you know the answer better. Abusing Islam is freedom of speech and denying holocaust is a crime. Double standards...
Cost of life of a human being is same but west don't realize that and history always repeat itself.
Posted by: Bilal Abdul MujeebTom you show your ignorance in anything to do with the Quran. The Quran, as much as it is a Moral and spiritual book, is a Legal text and with any legal text needs one specialised to read, understand and deduce from it.
I ask Tom, or for any reader, to look at the verses that were revealed at the time when Prophet Muhammed and his companions were being attacked by the Pagan military foes from Mecca. Yes, the Quran DID encourage the Muslims to attack and defend themselves, just like Uncle Sam encouraged young Americans to go and fight the Germans. So context is important.
Posted by: Fiaz Hussain
Women's state today is due to customs & traditions more than the religion which interpretation is monopolised by narrow minded men. Wilders is far from being objective & i don't think he wants to know facts but rather insult & stir a controversy, much like some muslims do. Wilders & extremists are 2 sides of one coin, unfortunately.
Posted by: S Ahmed
Ok, ahmed, where exactly is the disclaimer in the koran that it doesn't apply in 2008? It's prescriptive, a call to genocide. And comparing this dutch politician to muslim extremists shows how much credibilty you have.
(isn't it about now you tell everyone the bible is just as violent? Some idiots believe it too)
Infidels are your sworn enemies (Sura 4:101).
Be ruthless to the infidels (Sura 48:29).
Make war on the infidels who dwell around you (Sura 9:123, 66:9).
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day (Sura 9:29).
Strike off the heads of infidels in battle (Sura 47:4).
If someone stops believing in Allah, kill him (al-Bukhari 9:84:57).
Take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends (Sura 5:51, 60:13).
Never be a helper to the disbelievers (Sura 28:86).
Kill the disbelievers wherever we find them (Sura 2:191).
No Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel (al-Bukhari 1:3:111).
The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land (Sura 5:33).
"Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:103-)
"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)
"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)
"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)
"Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths (lies), but for the intention in your hearts" (Surah 2:225)
Posted by: Tez.
I would love to know what Joshua Cohen has been smoking. It certainly hasn't been tobacco! He stated: "It [the Qur'an] has been the most intellectual and progressive book for the past 1400 years and continues to be so."
That is a most remarkable statement, Mr Cohen!
What is "intellectual" and "progressive" about a book which vilifies non-believers, advocates violence against all that do not submit in obedience to its non-existent god, Allah, and a book which advocates treating women as second class citizens, and calls Jews "apes and pigs".
If you think that is "progressive", then you might also categorize Mein Kampf as "progressive", too.
Geert Wilders is right when he likens the Qur'an to Hitler's tome; and he is right, too, when he calls the book "fascistic".
Geert Wilders is the most courageous politician in Europe. Would that we had more like him, instead of the wimps we have got.
Geert Wilders is doing the right thing in bringing out the film, Fitna. He has my full support, and the support of many others too.
Freedom of expression and freedom of speech must be used lest they be taken away from us. These treasures can be likened to muscles: If they are not used, they atrophy.
It is most remarkable that we have the greatest advocates of freedom of speech and expression these days in two of Europe's smallest countries: Denmark and the Netherlands.
It has been noted that not one British newspaper nor one American newspaper had the courage to print the Motoons. Cowards all!
Posted by: Moderator
The comments above come from the misnamed Independent.
Fitna in the West? Yes. We get a disconnect between the people and the intelligentsia. Thank God for people like Geert Wilders.