Saturday, March 22, 2008

The Dutch take great pride in their democratic freedoms. "Stop him, just stop him."

Geert Wilders is shut down at the moment by an American Internet service provider. Maybe the sources below got their wish, at least for today

"I am not saying all Muslims are wrong or are terrorists or criminals. You will never hear me say that."

"Stop him, just stop him," said Hassan Iaeti.

Dozens of charges have already been brought against Geert Wilders for discrimination and incitement to hatred....

The Dutch take great pride in their democratic freedoms....

Heads a reactionary party... elected on an anti-immigration platform.

Wilders says he detests Islam but not Muslims

Potential hate crime... already filed police complaints... concerned that his past statements and the film will polarize religious groups ... foster discrimination.

"People who use knives instead of debates, we can never allow them to set the agenda."

He is an out-of-control, right-wing extremist....

The Dutch take great pride in their democratic freedoms

One former trade union leader called Mr. Wilders "evil."
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"The [Netherlands] government could really do something. That's in the interest of the country — stop him, just stop him," said Hassan Iaeti.

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"Wilders, who said he is not racist, heads a reactionary party with nine seats in the 150-member Dutch parliament, elected on an anti-immigration platform," said AP news service.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23757212

SOME here [in the Netherlands] see Mr. Wilders's film — titled "Fitna," Arabic for civil strife — as a potential hate crime and have already filed police complaints in various Dutch cities, concerned that his past statements and the film will polarize religious groups and foster discrimination.

His supporters say he protects traditional Dutch values. His critics, and there are many, say he is an out-of-control, right-wing extremist risking his country's good name for his own political gain. Others are even harsher; one former trade union leader called Mr. Wilders "evil."

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Maxime Verhagen, the Dutch foreign minister, told a public television reporter that he found it "irresponsible to broadcast this film."

"That's because Dutch companies, Dutch soldiers and Dutch residents could and will be in danger," Mr. Verhagen said.

Such statements spur Mr. Wilders on, and in his opinion unintentionally prove that Islam is a rigid, intolerant religion whose followers try to muffle criticism, often violently. Framing himself as a defender of free speech, Mr. Wilders said there would not be such a fuss about his film if it were about the Bible.

"We can never allow people who use nondemocratic means, people who use violence instead of arguments, people who use knives instead of debates, we can never allow them to set the agenda," he said.

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MR. WILDERS says he detests Islam but not Muslims. "I believe the Islamic ideology is a retarded, dangerous one, but I make a distinction," he said. "I don't hate people. I don't hate Muslims.

He added: "I am not saying all Muslims are wrong or are terrorists or criminals. You will never hear me say that."

"If you say the prophet is a war criminal, you say, I hate Muslims," a Dutch newspaper columnist, Youssef Azghari, said in an interview. "Because the prophet is a symbol. He was the one who invented the Islam."
http://wildersnews.blogspot.com/2008/03/dutch-antagonist-of-islam-waits-for-his.html

The Dutch take great pride in their democratic freedoms, which they believe mean that disputes should be settled with arguments and not with repression and outright conflict.... Charges: However, it is important to emphasise that even in the Netherlands, the right to freedom of speech is not absolute. Its boundaries are set by a ban on discriminating against others on the basis of race or faith and on incitement to violence. But it is up to the courts and not to the government to determine whether a film breaks the law. And such a ruling can only be made once the film has been shown. Dozens of charges have already been brought against Geert Wilders for discrimination and incitement to hatred and these are currently being considered by the courts. Depending on its content, Geert Wilders' film could also easily find itself the subject of legal scrutiny....
http://www.radionetherlands.nl/currentaffairs/region/netherlands/080322-fitna-foretold-mc

"Stop him, just stop him." The Dutch take great pride in their democratic freedoms.

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