Monday, May 23, 2011

Jihadis are so bad. (Damn)

Right idea, just completely backward. Nonie Darwish writes about a jihadi imam who claims that Muslims should wage jihad to steal and conquer and win. I say, "Yeah, so?" But then, I write that kind of thing often myself, only I say it is up to men of the world to conquer Islam and wipe it out, making a profit along the way. I don't argue we should become thieving scum-bags out to take what's not ours. I argue that we should go to war against Islam to take what is theirs so they can't use it against us and that we, in turn, can use what they had against them now that it's our rather than using our own resources to defeat them. I argue, in effect, against drinking our own blood to stay alive to fight them, and that we should drink their blood to stay alive to fight Islam.

Some argue that if we do what they do, then we will be as bad as they are. I say, "NO. We must be worse than they are." I don't mean we should, like Muslims do, butcher sleeping babies. I mean we should have no restraints in our struggle to destroy Islam. Refrain from nothing that is effective in the struggle. Make Stalin weep. Make the Muslims pay us to do it. Filibuster for Universal Modernity.

Nonie Darwish writes:

A well known Islamic leader in Egypt by the name of Abu Ishak Al Huweini, who often appears on Egyptian TV, has recently said the following in Arabic and I have translated it into English:

“We are at a time of Jihad; Jihad for the sake of Allah is a pleasure, a true pleasure. Mohammed’s followers used to compete to do it. The reason we are poor now is because we have abandoned jihad. If only we can conduct a jihadist invasion at least once a year or if possible twice or three times, then many people on Earth would become Muslims. And if anyone prevents our dawa or stands in our way, then we must kill them or take as hostage and confiscate their wealth, women and children. Such battles will fill the pockets of the Mujahid who can return home with 3 or 4 slaves, 3 or 4 women and 3 or 4 children. This can be a profitable business if you multiply each head by 300 or 400 dirham,. This can be like financial shelter whereby a jihadist, in time of financial need, can always sell one of these heads (meaning slavery). No one can make that much money in one deal (from hard work) even if a Muslim goes to the West to work or do trade. In time of need, that is a good resource for profit.”

When I heard this audio message, I could not believe my ears. This is nothing short of barbaric and medieval preaching by a powerful Muslim leader in Egypt who has access to public TV and the ears of millions. This sheikh, who is at least honest and unapologetic about what jihad means, is also promoting the true model and example of the prophet Mohammed in the 7th and what he did to non-Muslims, as an example for all Muslims to follow today. Isn’t that the role of a prophet, to be the example to his followers?

It is difficult for Muslims to run away from their religious history, which is documented over and over again in Islamic books. Mohammed himself said, probably with pride, that he was made wealthy through terror. That preacher is just a good follower of Islam and that is why he is advocating the same kind of behavior. Hey, the plan made Mohammed rich, so why not let it be the formula for all Muslims today? What used to be whispered about Mohammed’s behavior and only discussed among the learned men of Islam is openly advocated today in public in a world where the ugly truth can no longer be hidden.

This audio has shocked some Muslims who are in denial about the history of Islam and the true meaning of jihad, which is defined as a war against non-Muslims to establish the religion and after the fight seize their property, women, children, enslave them and sell them like cattle. According to pure Muslims, what was the model for Muslims in the 7th century is now their model in the 21st century.

Nonie Darwish and most others on the side of human decency are good people, and they are uncritically against the kind of thinking the primitive above takes as normative Islamic consideration. That alone is why we must disregard such sentimentalities as Darwish et al propose: they are too good for the nature of this struggle, and if we leave it to these well-meaning philistines, we are surely doomed, Darwish and the others and us. But we would want to fight for such dreamy types. They are exactly the kinds of squishy fools who deserve to live in a dream-land of prettiness and world peace. Let them condemn those men who wage war for justice and peace in the world. Let them shriek as they are sure to do so loudly and endlessly. And let us continue on our ways regardless of their dramas and fits of moralistic over-reach. They really don't count where the fighting takes place. Nice people, and we're better off fighting for them than against them, but we needn't take their protestations seriously. If they won't fight for themselves, they can shout and stamp their feet and carry on living. The rest of humanity will do the work they won't do to keep themselves alive and in peace and security. Nice but irrelevant. Maybe they can send us cookies.


CGW said...

BRAVO ! ! !

Anonymous said...

I’m an ex-Muslim 21 years old girl .. i studied Islamic laws and there is nothing like this in most of our books.. its only mentioned in the big books which are used by Sheiks “very religious people”
ordinary people think that Islam is a peaceful religion and thats what’s they been taught!! and when they knew the truth or read something like this.. they disagree with it but afraid to tell .. because anyone who’s against what is right and proved in religion is an infidel and he shall DIE !! Muslims are victims for their own religion :’(
On the other hand there are sick people who are happy with these facts about their religion because it satisfies their sick needs and bloody imaginations.. and these people are only 5% from the 1.5 billion Muslims.. BUT THEY ARE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS.. its not by number.. its by how crazy they are … SO from an EX_MUSLIM who still stuck in her Hijab and afraid to leave her Islamic country because she might get killed for the try .. WATCH OUT PEOPLE >> ISLAM=EVIL…

Dag said...

Hi, Mulsim girl. I posted your comment and left some music at a link in the post-- just for you. I hope you like it.

If ever you find your way to freedom, and you will if I can find a way to help you, you can fly free and beautiful for all of your days.

truepeers said...

I came by the blog, so I can't help but leave a comment in the hope it will help you improve your argument.

I just can't see your vision in any detail... It seems to me the very modernity you supposedly champion came into existence as a superior, radically different, way of making wealth than the old martial ways of grabbing it. Modernity is fundamentally at odds with the warrior ethos you also want to defend, which is not to argue that modernity can ever do without a warrior class (with which it will thus always be trapped in some kind of moral unease).

For the sake of argument, I'll claim, if you care to explore it, that there is no way for a modern people to make money at warfare. Anything worth pillaging could be more cheaply controlled through the arts of economic competition, however much bribing of local warlords might be required. That's not to say war isn't sometimes necessary and that sometimes you do have to kill instead of paying the blackmail. But for people living in the modern economy, it will always be an expense that costs more than it takes in. It's the nonsense of the left that sees the history of modern (19th-20thC) imperialism as a way by which the West stole wealth. IN fact, the colonies never justified their expense, in purely monetary terms, however inevitable or necessary the political forces behind them and the construction of a global economy. Even a country like Israel, which is proving to be an economic success story, was surely not an effient use of Jewish capital, even if it was a politically and religiously necessary one.

The Muslim world has very little in the way of wealth. It might, in theory, be profitable to take control of the oil fields, and other mineral wealth, as long as you could ignore everything and everyone else. But politically, morally, hygenically, you can't just ignore them; and any attempt to "Americanize", as you have put it, would surely cost far more than it costs to put some king in charge, and more than the finite oil or other mineral wealth is ever likely to sustain. HOw could it ever be done, if by privateers, without going bankrupt? try to make the economic argument, if you can.

truepeers said...

If you're particularly sadistic, you might argue that profit will be realized by, as efficiently as possible, killing all the Muslims and taking the oil. But that would be to ignore the moral cost to the society that financed the (still costly) killing machine, or would thereafter do business with those who did. Many people would have no way of maintaining their faith in a "free society" and economy that had leaders who could do that or that allowed "privateers" to do it. What would stop them from doing whatever they pleased to anyone else, including those who are not pre-modern savages? And having lost the faith, as many Westerners already have, the faithless would become a parasitic and destructive source of moral blackmail from within. This, surely, is what the history of white guilt is already tecahing us. By declaring that guilt to be so far irrational, is not to escape from the constraint on any proposed events whose nature would more rightly lead to more of it.

The struggle against pre-modern forces can only be justified in moral and political terms, it seems to me. We kid ourselves to think it won't cost us economically. The world is stuck where it is because most Westerners want to think there is some easy way out. The only way out I see is recognizing that we are going to have to spend blood and treasure for some time in defending those, like the Muslim girl here, who want to be free, and slowly grow the space in which greater freedom becomes possible.

We have to change the mindset of a world that doesn't want to fund the American military machine. For the only present alternative is to oblige forces that will prove corrosive of modernity.

The military machine will always be a necessary expense and an archaic anachronism from the p.o.v. of those who don't appreciate the paradoxical underpinnings of a modernity that still needs something of a warrior class which cannot be justified in the economic terms which modernity worships.

Anonymous said...

certainly from a secular humanist perspective islam is total evil, even a brief review of islams theology & history easily verifies this negative assertion

see the links in the pdf version below for more accurate info to counter political correctness & islamic dissimulation

islam is a horrible ideology for human rights

5 key things about islam

1. mythical beliefs - all religions have these (faith) because its part of being a religion: having beliefs without proof until after the believer dies. the problem is people will believe almost anything.

2. totalitarianism - islam has no seperation of church and state: sharia law governs all. there is no free will in islam: only submission to the will of allah as conveniently determined by the imams who spew vapors to feather their own nests. there are no moderate muslims: they all support sharia law.

3. violence - islam leads the pack of all religions in violent tenets for their ideology & history: having eternal canonical imperatives for supremacy at all costs and calling for violence & intimidation as basic tools to achieve these goals.

4. dishonesty - only islam has dishonesty as a fundamental tenet: this stems from allah speaking to mohamhead & abrogation in the koran which is used to explain how mo's peaceful early life was superseded by his warlord role later.

5. misogyny - present day islam is still rooted in 8th century social ethics: treating females as property of men good only for children, severely limiting their activities, dressing them in shower curtains and worse.

conclusions ??

there really are NO redeeming qualities for this muddled pile of propaganda.

islam is just another fascist totalitarian ideology used by power hungry fanatics on yet another quest for worldwide domination and includes all the usual human rights abuses & suppression of freedoms.

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