So long as the likes of Sir Iqbal Sacranie and the members of the Islamic councils of Britain are in charge of the Islamic discourse in Britain, extolling the virtues of such as Maududi, praising the governance of Shari'a states such as Pakistan, then Muslims in Britain will continue to whip each other into frenzies of religious madness; and they will kill you.
The British are lame, hobbled by their own smug superiority, clinging to their sanctimonious dhimmi fascist cliches as if it were the voice of God speaking commandments. Below we have three pieces on Islam, the first being excerpts from al-BBC in which Sacranie explains that he wishes to have a more exclusive "Holocaust Rememberance Day" memorial, one that doesn't focus on the devastation of the Jews, but that focuses on the terrorists of Palestine, Chechnia, and Kashmir. For once, and likely not for a long time again, the BBC picks up the ball and runs toward the goal posts.
But to be fair, not all agreed that the BBC did an honest or accurate job of journalism, and we present some excerpts from south west Asia to give some balance.
And with the talk of Maududi and the glories of the tribal areas of Pakistan that Iqbal Sacranie thinks are so great, we turn to Africa for the opinions a a jouralist who is none to happy with the West.
We follow those posts with more on Sacraie and excerts from the MOD praising and cloying treatment of a terrorist poligion. And then more on Sacranie and the state of the nation of Islamic Britain.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama
This year's Holocaust Memorial Day was organised by the government to mark the 60th anniversary of the most shameful event in modern European history.
Tony Blair, Prime Minister: For many here today, the Holocaust survivors, there is no need to state this day's significance."
John Ware: While some Muslims went, the MCB chose to stay away.
John Ware: You supported the boycott.
Sir Iqbal Sacranie: Not the boycott we did not boycott it, what we said¿
John Ware: You didn't go to it.
Sir Iqbal Sacranie: No. That doesn't¿ a boycott has a¿ a boycott has a total.. a different connotations. It denies the... We do not deny the fact that that¿
John Ware: Well how would you define your non presence at Holocaust Day, being the only faith group that wasn't present, how would you define it?
Sir Iqbal Sacranie: No, that was wrong, there were people who attended from the Muslim faith.
John Ware: No, the Muslim Council of Britain. How would you define.. if it wasn't a boycott, how would you define your decision not to attend?
Sir Iqbal Sacranie: Indeed, a very principled position we have taken. Of course we share the pain and the grief of our Jewish friends when they.. when they suffered the pain through the holocaust, but the point is that it has to be taken all of them.
John Ware: The principle the MCB say they were defending was to make Holocaust Memorial Day more "inclusive".
They wrote to the Home Office saying they would only attend if the event included "the sufferings of all people" and in particular what they called
"Other ongoing genocide and human rights abuses around the world, notably in the occupied Palestinian territories, Chechnya Kashmir etc." John Ware: If it had been a principle.
Sir Iqbal Sacranie: Yes¿
John Ware: I would respectfully suggest you would have included all kinds of conflicts all over the world involving not just Muslims but other faiths. You chose Kashmir, Chechnya, Palestine, in the reverse order.
Sir Iqbal Sacranie: If you look at the statement, and I would strongly advise you to look at the statement, advise you to look at what was the document which was submitted to the Home Office which made it absolutely clear that it is all atrocities¿ Rwanda, Bosnia, it happened to be the fact, it is there, the vast majority of atrocities that we have seen in these modern times have been Muslims.
John Ware: You've cited Rwanda in your statement?
Sir Iqbal Sacranie: It is, it was cited there, it's been quoted time and again.
John Ware: In your statement to the Home Office?
Sir Iqbal Sacranie: Indeed it is. It's clearly been mentioned."
John Ware: It's true - the MCB did cite Rwanda - but only after the story broke accusing them of boycotting Holocaust Memorial day.
When the MCB published their letter to the Home Office it mentioned by name only Palestine, Chechnya and Kashmir.
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Observer's investigation into the Muslim Council of Britain was ill-researched
22nd August, 2005
by Fe'reeha M. Idrees
Freelance Journalist
As a staunch supporter of the mainstream media it was shocking for me to read The Observer's front page investigative piece last week detailing "radical links".
My complaint is not that the newspaper's Martin Bright wrote against the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), but that it printed an ill-researched feature built on loose assumptions and arguments.
The Observer's primary hypothesis, that the MCB has extremist views and links with a radical organisation in Pakistan, was far fetched to start with.
Pakistan has extremist organisations, a legacy of the Afghan jihad during General Zia ul Haq's regime, but Jamaat-e-Islami, the party mentioned by Bright, cannot fall in the above category.
The party has a traditional view of Islam which may not coincide with Western ideas, but by the same standards that do not allow an extremist Mullah to spread hatred against the Western lifestyle, it should not be a cause of discomfort for a British reporter. (More:)
http://www.asiansinmedia.org
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Inside Another Den From Kashmir to Bosnia and from Mogadishu to the Jolo islands of The Philippines it was clear that Muslims everywhere were at the receiving end of international politics as defined and determined by the US, its Western allies and their preferences or interests. For these extremists, until and unless the US was brought to its knees, it was very likely that the Qoranic injunction to seek the welfare of the entire Ummah would remain unfulfilled, reason for which something had to be done. It must be noted that all the recognized terrorist leaders strictly adhere to the extremist teachings of Maulana Maududi, Hasan al-Banna and Syed Qutb and have managed to hoodwink lots of adherents globally by continuously playing the religious card so effectively to promote their cause.
Ebow Daniel | Posted: Monday, August 22, 2005
Contrary to the belief that Baghdad is the sole cause of the attacks on London, this writer is inclined to assert that the roots of the recent violent acts are attributable to the organizing principles that underpin life on both sides of the Durand Line between Pakistan and Afghanistan. This stretch of land that is home to the restless tribes of Pakistan and Afghanistan, notorious for their morbid opposition to the United States and its allies and seeking to secede if possible, is also widely believed to be the hiding place of international persona-non-gratis like Osama bin Laden, Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and Mullah Omar.
The tribal enclaves of Baluchistan, the North West Frontier Province, the Kunar Province and Waziristan to name but a few contain some of the most hostile and lawless peoples on the face of the planet. The lawlessness in the area is ironically the means by which their livelihoods are sustained for it permits the trade in opium to flourish in an intricate network that ensures that warlords, international renegades and terrorist godfathers, together with their cohorts are never in want or need irrespective of the freeze on their assets held abroad.
It is with some of the proceeds of this illicit [opium] trade that the myriad of madrassas are run and supported to become hatcheries for the production of human explosives. Of notable concern in this intriguing sequence is the establishment of mobile training camps to run alongside the madrassas.
Unfortunately terrorists have no regard for the law as they are driven more by a combination of warped religious fervour, morbid hatred and strict adherence to the instructions of their mentors.
It is for this reason that London is likely to experience even more devastating attacks before the end of the year. (More)
http://www.accra-mail.com
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Sir Iqbal Sacranie, Secretary-General of the Muslim Council of Britain, responds to the Observer reports
Sunday August 21, 2005
The Observer
Last week The Observer published a front-page article, a two-page investigation and an editorial, all seeking to question the Muslim Council of Britain.
The Observer claimed to have uncovered the MCB's 'roots in the extremist politics of Pakistan'. What roots, though? The reporter, Martin Bright, said senior MCB figures had stated that Mawlana Mawdudi - the founder of the Jamaat-i-Islami party - was an 'important Islamic thinker' (and indeed he was) and that they shared some of his views while disagreeing with others.
The Jamaat-i-Islami party happens to be a perfectly legitimate and democratic Islamic party, which through an alliance with other parties is actually in power in the North West Frontier Province of Pakistan. [cont.]
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We wondered about that, and went to wikipedia for some insight:
[Today, the line is often referred to as one drawn on water, symbolizing the porous border between Afghanistan and Pakistan. The line has come under special attention of late, as it has become notorious for allowing Taliban fighters and terrorists to freely travel back and forth, finding safety and shelter in the autonomous Pashtun regions of the Federally Administered Tribal Areas.
NWFP continues to have an image problem. Even within Pakistan it is regarded as a "radical state" and a "backwater." In reality [?] the NWFP has been the most stable and peaceful of Pakistani provinces. The plagues of sectarianism, terrorism and insurrection have not been a problem in the North-West Frontier. www.wikipedia.com]
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So much for that. Let's continue with Sacranie:
[cont.] The Observer's editorial condemned the MCB's refusal to attend the Holocaust Memorial Day while neglecting to mention the reason. The MCB has called for a more inclusive 'Genocide Memorial Day' and believes that this would make the 'Never Again' subtext of the day more effective and pertinent in a world where the past few years have witnessed carnage in Srebrenica, Chechnya and Rwanda. By singling out the Holocaust Memorial Day as a central reason to criticise the MCB, The Observer confirmed the MCB's argument that there is indeed an 'Israel test' to which British Muslims are being subjected.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk
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It's our position that Islam is a fascist poligion. We look at so-called moderates such as Sacranie, see him obfuscating and lying, praising Maududi, the ideologue who is cause of the deaths of millions of Indians in the civil war that erupted in 1948 at the creation of Pakistan, and we see Sacranie praising one of the worst hell-holes on Earth, N.W Frontier Province, Pak., as a fine place. Few of us require any further knowledge of the inherent fascism of Islam than what we came with, but it's nice to see in print the words of the fascists themselves.
It's not so much fun when we see the words of the British government, in the following case the MOD, praising Islam:
From: M.o.D., U.K.
CDS attends Armed Forces Presentation to the Muslim Council of Britain PublishedMonday 14th March 2005
The Chief of Defence Staff, General Sir Michael Walker, and a small team of senior officers gave a presentation to the Muslim Council of Britain's governing body at the Islamic Cultural Centre, Regents Park on 12 March 2005.
The event was hosted by Iqbal Sacranie, the Secretary General of the Muslim Council of Britain and Dr Ahmad Al-Dubayan, the Director General of the Islamic Cultural Centre.The aim of the presentation was to speak directly to leaders of the Muslim community to explain what is being done to ensure that the Armed Forces is genuinely inclusive and representative of the society it exists to serve; to address any concerns and questions Muslim community leaders have about Muslims serving in the Armed Forces; and, more generally, to increase awareness of career opportunities on offer for young people, in particular those from the Muslim community.
The Chief of Defence Staff said:
"I would like to pay tribute to the Muslim Council of Britain's invaluable work to promote better community relations and increase knowledge and understanding of the Muslim faith within British society. The Muslim Council of Britain has made a real and lasting contribution to the creation of a just and tolerant society.
"I would also like to emphasise my personal commitment to creating Armed Forces which reflect more fully the religious, cultural and ethnic diversity of the society we serve. In return we can offer fulfilling careers and high quality training and education."
Responding, Mr Sacranie said:
"The MCB welcomes moves by our Armed Forces towards greater recognition of the needs of its Muslim recruits. The establishment of the post of a Muslim Adviser to the Ministry of Defence and the recently proposed appointment of an Imam to cater for the spiritual welfare of British Muslim recruits are both commendable steps.
"We hope that we will see increased numbers of British Muslims taking up positions in our Armed Forces just as they have done so in other sectors of our society. For this to be successful, however, it is imperative that the high reputation of our armed forces is zealously protected and maintained and not allowed to be tainted by any misbehaviour or illegal actions."
There are just over 300 personnel in the Armed Forces who have declared their religion as Islam
The Armed Forces are committed to creating a working environment in which everyone is not only valued and respected, but encouraged to realise their full potential, regardless of race, ethnic origin, religion, gender, social background or sexual orientation.Religious belief is treated as a private matter but, recognising the unique and demanding circumstances of Service life, the Armed Forces aim to facilitate and support individuals' spiritual needs where they can, subject to vital considerations of operational effectiveness and health and safety.
Service dress regulations take account of cultural and religious differences, such as permitting individuals to wear items of religious significance. On occasion, there may be some restrictions regarding clothing worn in an operational environment, or where health and safety is an issue.
The Armed Forces make every effort to cater for all special religious dietary requirements. Halal (as well as Kosher and vegetarian) meals can be provided in Service Mess Facilities and are normally readily available in the form of Operational Ration Packs for operations and exercises.***
It's not all sweetness and light. Sacranie gets upset with England when it doesn't follow the dhimmi line as completely as he'd wish it to:
Muslim leaders in feud with the BBC
Muslim Council official claims Panorama is 'pro-Israel'
Observer investigation reveals group's extremist links
Martin Bright, home affairs editor
Sunday August 14, 2005
The Observer
Britain's most powerful Islamic organisation was accused last night of failing mainstream Muslim Britain after it complained of a 'pro-Israel agenda' at the BBC in a Panorama programme on the faith to be aired next week.
In an extraordinary letter obtained by The Observer, the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) has told director general Mark Thompson that the Panorama investigation of organisations representing Muslims in Britain, will 'inflame mistrust'.
The letter will be used by critics of the MCB as evidence that it is out of touch amid growing concern that it does not represent moderate Muslims.
A separate Observer investigation into the group has revealed its roots in the extremist politics of Pakistan. Its secretary general, Sir Iqbal Sacranie, and media spokesman Inayat Bunglawala have both expressed admiration for the late Maulana Maududi, founder of the radical Jamaat-i-Islami party, which campaigns non-violently for an Islamic state in Pakistan.
Maududi, a prominent figure in the 20th century Islamic revivalist movement, was a virulent anti-feminist who believed Muslims should struggle to rid their countries of Western influences. The Islamic Foundation, an affiliate of the MCB with close and influential links to the government, was founded by Khurshid Ahmad, a prominent member of the Jamaat-i-Islami.
A second affiliate, the strictly orthodox Jamiat Ahl-i-Hadith, based in Birmingham, practises a form of Islam which demands strict separatism from mainstream society. Its website describes the ways of 'disbelievers' as 'based on sick and deviant views concerning their societies, the universe and their very existence'.
The MCB is a loose structure of more than 400 affiliates, and there is no suggestion they are all extremist.
The BBC programme is thought to be highly critical of some MCB affiliates for their links to extremist Islamic ideology. Panorama, reporter John Ware is thought to challenge Sacranie over his boycott of this year's Holocaust Memorial Day, his attendance at a memorial service for Hamas leader Sheikh Yassin and his equivocal stance on Palestinian suicide bombers.
The letter from Bung-lawala, sent last Thursday, repeatedly refers to the 'pro-Israel lobby' at the BBC, which is said to be behind the programme, although it does not specify who it means. Bunglawala says: 'It appears the Panorama team is more interested in furthering a pro-Israeli agenda than assessing the work of Muslim organisations in the UK.
He regrets that 'the Panorama team seem intent on creating mistrust by serving the interests of the pro-Israeli lobby and undermining community relations'.
The letter goes on: 'The BBC should not allow itself to be used by the highly placed supporters of Israel in the British media to make capital out of the 7 July atrocities in London.'
A senior BBC source said: 'It's plain wrong - insulting - to suggest we have an agenda and frankly preposterous.'
Sacranie said: 'We are concerned that the test of whether we are doing good work in the UK is whether we pass the Israel test. We have a clear position: we oppose the Israeli occupation. But our prime concern is with the Muslim community in this country.' Since 7 July he believed the MCB had been subjected to 'a campaign orchestrated by the pro-Israel lobby'.
A BBC spokeswoman said last night: 'The BBC rejects completely any allegation of institutional or programme bias and is confident the Panorama programme will be fair and impartial.'
The BBC has not been known for its pro-Israeli stance. In July 2003, Danny Seaman, the Israeli government's head of press, accused it of 'demonising and vilifying' the state of Israel.
Some leading Muslims are also critical. Abdul-Rehman Malik, of the Muslim magazine Q-News, said MCB leaders should clarify its position on suicide bombers. 'You cannot be equivocal about innocent people. An innocent person in Tel Aviv is the same as an innocent person in Baghdad or London.'
Last week, novelist Salman Rushdie, given a death sentence by Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran after the publication of The Satanic Verses, criticised Tony Blair for promoting Sacranie as a moderate voice.
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But really, who is out of control in Britain? It's not just the Muslims bombing commuter trains. Look at the article below to see Her Majesty's government at work with the followers of Maududi, and think how much they'd love to see a shari'a state version of the old public school dorm where they gained their fondest memories:
The Muslim Council of Britain has been courted by the government and lauded by the Foreign Office but critics tell a different and more disturbing story. Martin Bright reports
Sunday August 14, 2005
The Observer
The Muslim Council of Britain is officially the moderate face of Islam. Its pronouncements condemning the London bombings have been welcomed by the government as a model response for mainstream Muslims. The MCB's secretary general, Iqbal Sacranie, has recently been knighted and senior figures within the organisation have the ear of ministers.
But an Observer investigation can reveal that, far from being moderate, the Muslim Council of Britain has its origins in the extreme orthodox politics in Pakistan. And as its influence increases through Whitehall, many within the Muslim community are growing concerned that this self-appointed organisation is crowding out other, genuinely moderate, voices of Muslim Britain.
Far from representing the more progressive or spiritual traditions within Islam, the leadership of the Muslim Council of Britain and some of its affiliates sympathise with and have links to conservative Islamist movements in the Muslim world and in particular Pakistan's Jamaat-i-Islami, a radical party committed to the establishment of an Islamic state in Pakistan ruled by sharia law.
One of the MCB's affiliate organisations, Leicester's Islamic Foundation, was founded by Khurshid Ahmad, a senior figure in Jamaat-i-Islami.
Another is Birmingham-based Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith, an extremist sect whose website says: 'The disbelievers are misguided and their ways based on sick or deviant views concerning their societies, their universe and their very existence.' It urges its adherents not to wear Western hats, walk dogs, watch sport or soap operas and forbids 'mingling and shaking hands between men and women'.
Jamaat-i-Islami activists in Pakistan have been involved in protests against images of women on adverts in public places. The organisation's founder, Maulana Maududi, was a fierce opponent of feminism who believed that women should be kept in purdah - seclusion from male company. Although the MCB's leadership distances itself from some of these teachings, it has been criticised for having no women prominently involved in the organisation.
Last week, Salman Rushdie warned in an article in the Times that Sacranie had been a prominent critic during the Satanic Verses affair and advised that the MCB leader should not be viewed as a moderate. In 1989, Sacranie said 'death was perhaps too easy' for the writer. Rushdie also criticised Sacranie for boycotting January's Holocaust Memorial Day ceremony. 'If Sir Iqbal Sacranie is the best Mr Blair can offer in the way of a good Muslim, we have a problem,' said Rushdie. A Panorama documentary to be screened next Sunday will also be highly critical.
The MCB has now written to the BBC's director general, Mark Thompson, to complain about the programme in which reporter John Ware will challenge Sacranie to justify his boycott of Holocaust Memorial Day and clarify the MCB's position on Palestinian suicide bombers. In the letter, Inayat Bunglawala, the MCB's media spokesman says: 'It appears that the Panorama team is more interested in furthering a pro-Israeli agenda than assessing the work of Muslim organisations in the UK.'
The origins of the Muslim Council of Britain can be traced to the storm around the publication of the Satanic Verses in 1988. India was the first country to ban the book and many Muslim countries followed suit. Opposition to the book in Britain united people committed to a traditionalist view of Islam, of which the founders of the Muslim Council of Britain was a part.
The MCB was officially founded in November 1997, shortly after Tony Blair came to power, and has had a close relationship with the Labour government ever since. Its detractors claim it was the creature of Jack Straw, but his predecessor as Home Secretary, Michael Howard, also played a role in its establishment as a semi-official channel of communication with British Muslims. It remains particularly influential within the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, which has a little-known outreach department which works with Britain's Muslims. The FCO pamphlet Muslims in Britain is essentially an MCB publication and the official ministerial celebration of the Muslim festival of Eid is organised jointly with the MCB.
The Observer has learnt that the MCB used its influence in Whitehall to gain a place on the board of trustees of the Festival of Muslim Cultures, planned for next year. This extravaganza is designed to demonstrate the diversity and vibrancy of Muslim culture. The festival is funded by the British Council and has Prince Charles as its patron, but it has been told that it will need to be compliant with Islamic 'sharia law' in order to gain the MCB's full support.
The organisers are now concerned that the festival will lose political backing if they invite performers who are seen to be 'un-Islamic'.
Festival organisers already hope to invite the Uzbek singer, Sevara Nezarkhan, who does not wear the headscarf or 'hijab' and has worked with Jewish 'klezmer' musicians. It also intends to exhibit the 14th-century world history of Rashid al-Din, which represents the human form and the prophet Mohammed himself, thought by some strict Muslims to be forbidden. Other performers could include the Senegalese musician Youssou N'Dour and the Bangladeshi-British dancer Akram Khan.
The Observer understands that the Foreign Office insisted that the festival organisers involved the MCB before they would give them their full backing. As a result, an MCB nominee has been taken on to the festival's board of trustees. One source close to the festival organisers said: 'We constantly found our efforts were being blocked and it kept coming back to the MCB and its sympathisers within Whitehall.'
The chairman of the festival's trustees, Raficq Abdulla, said: 'We will welcome the MCB's trustee and hope his contribution will prove valuable. But we insist that the festival is not dominated by any ideology. The aim is to capture the values of Muslim cultures and bring them into the British mainstream. We are not here to be the mouthpiece of any Muslim organisation.'
The strain of Islamic ideology favoured by the MCB leadership and many of its affiliate organisations is inspired by Maulana Maududi, a 20th-century Islamic scholar little known in the West but hugely significant as a thinker across the Muslim world. His writings, which call for a global Islamic revival, influenced Sayyid Qutb, usually credited as the founding father of modern Islamic radicalism and one of the inspirations for al-Qaeda.
In Maududi's worldview all humanity was split into believers (practising Muslims) and non-believers, whom he describes as 'barbarians'. He was deeply critical of notions such as nationalism and feminism and called on Muslims to purge themselves of Western influence.
In 1941 he formed Jamaat-i-Islami and remained its leader until 1972. His writings do not advocate terrorism. But the language of Jihad in Islam, written in 1930, may seem violent to a Western reader: 'The objective of Islamic "jihad" is to eliminate the rule of an un-Islamic system and establish in its stead an Islamic system of state rule. Islam does not intend to confine this revolution to a single state or a few countries; the aim of Islam is to bring about a universal revolution.'
Abdul-Rehman Malik, contributing editor of Muslim magazine Q-News, said: 'Maududi saw the world in the same way that Sayyid Qutb saw the world: they both divided humanity into true believers or those in a state of ignorance. Many of the affiliates of The Muslim Council of Britain are inspired by Maududi's ideology.'
Malik said that its leaders needed to be clearer about its position on suicide bombers. 'You cannot be equivocal about innocent people. An innocent person in Tel Aviv is the same as an innocent person in Baghdad or London. The MCB has never clarified any of the critical issues and now the chickens are coming home to roost.'
The MCB's Inayat Bunglawala said he had a deep respect for Maududi and defended the MCB's affiliation to Khurshid Ahmad's Islamic Foundation. He said: 'Maududi is a very important Muslim thinker. The book that brought me to practise Islam was Now Let Us Be Muslims by Maududi. As for Jamaat-i-Islami, it is a perfectly legal body in Pakistan. There is no suggestion that the Islamic Foundation has done anything wrong. They have done fantastic work in publishing literature on Islam, including works for children.'
A spokesman for the Islamic Foundation confirmed that Khurshid Ahmad was chairman of its board of trustees. 'The Islamic Foundation does not have links with the Jamaat-i-Islami. We promote assimilation, integration and encourage community cohesion. We do publish books by Maududi, but we feel these are books of merit to British Muslims.'
Sacranie said he believed that recent attacks on the Muslim Council of Britain were inspired by a pro-Israeli lobby in the British media. 'The MCB carries out its activities through its affiliates. There are more than 400 organisations involved, representing 56 nationalities. Yes there is a following for Maududi in the UK. I am not a scholar, but in many areas I am inspired by what he has to say and in others I am not.'
There is no suggestion that Sacranie and other prominent figures in the Muslim Council of Britain are anything but genuine in their condemnation of the terrorist bombings of the 7 July. But their claims to represent a moderate or progressive tendency in Islam are becoming increasingly difficult to sustain.
The biggest test for the MCB will be its reaction to the more challenging aspects of the Festival of Muslim cultures. On this Sacranie was clear: 'If any activities are seen to contradict the teachings of Islam, then we will oppose them. If you organise a festival in the name of Islam then it must be Islamic. We will advise them accordingly.'
There are those in Britain struggling to transform the austere image Islam has in this country, including the organisers of the Festival of Muslim Cultures, who will not find his words reassuring.***
It's clear that the bum-boys of the Britsh civil service are working for the Muslim terrorists who kill the British public.
But: "What is to be done?"
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Britain's Defense Dept. sounds like they have drunk the Islamic koolaid just like America's DOD.
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