tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13144649.post115119193948086097..comments2023-10-21T08:02:56.571-07:00Comments on No Dhimmitude: Protesting the World "Peace" ForumDaghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10664271893389366772noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13144649.post-1151298023603349702006-06-25T22:00:00.000-07:002006-06-25T22:00:00.000-07:00I have to wonder what's become of people in this p...I have to wonder what's become of people in this part of the world regarding the "peace movement." Today a book dealer who makes a substantial amount of money from me got so anrgy that he invited me to exit his shop because I ventured to suggest that he might like to actually read Hayek and Sowell rather than just sell the books; and furthermore that he might consider shelving the Che bio.s currently in the window display somewhere in the curtained-off porno section in the back by the ally. I suggested that rather than sell books glorifying Che he might be happier selling books on William Walker, an American featured here many times, who attempted to enslave the population of Central America, which would have had great merit today to the citizens of those unfortunately independent republics in that they would now be full American citizens rather than victims of death squads and those like Che would attempt to enslave them for the glories of the socialist revolution. <BR/><BR/>No, going against the common thoughts of the intellectual classes, regardless of the sense in it, is dangerous, even when dealing with a book seller.<BR/><BR/>Most people do not think critically, not even the vast majority of our intelligentsia, the parrots of fashion. I am particularly pleased that ours do and that we did stand up to the dhimmi morons and spit metaphorically on their Guccis.<BR/><BR/>Ralph, I would like to respond to your message but I haven't got a clue what you're on about, the reasons being that your message is incoherent and even illiterate. You are making me think you're the "journalist" who spoke at us during our orderly protest against the Hate Hippies last day. If so, you would be the one I suggested knows so little about journalism that I offered to spell the word for you. Ah well, your reading skills are likely no better than your writing skills, so let's let it pass till we meet again.Daghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10664271893389366772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13144649.post-1151282342835445572006-06-25T17:39:00.000-07:002006-06-25T17:39:00.000-07:00Forgive me Ralph, I'm not sure I understand your p...Forgive me Ralph, I'm not sure I understand your point. Are you saying we are sods for not making pamphlets to accompany our protest? We all work for a living, we don't exactly have the time to spend making a big production out of these things. (two of us went straight back to work following the morning's action, as well) I'm sure in the eyes of the professional protestors who have had union seminars on how to conduct themselves during such affairs, we probably did look amateurish. That is because we are new at this, being working folk. However, I had the distinct impression that our very amateurishness felt like efrontery to the professional protestors, who did not relish having roles reversed and having to justify themselves for a change. <BR/>Anyway, it must have been effective to some degree if it bothered you enough to post a comment. Thanks for your imput even though it sounds like we are on two different sides of this issue. <BR/><BR/>Maccusgermanis, thank you. Considering all the times your efforts to hold your own meetings out your way, have inspired me, let's call it even..!Charles Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18168475254263681673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13144649.post-1151274158603011962006-06-25T15:22:00.000-07:002006-06-25T15:22:00.000-07:00You all are certianlly inspiring. I'm glad to hear...You all are certianlly inspiring. I'm glad to hear about your outing.<BR/><BR/>Concering labels, such as liberal or conservative. Labels, being of most use to others, I find it most useful, to await to see what label is assigned me. This deferment is, often surprising, and always revealing of the labeler.maccusgermanishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01887574496312472556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13144649.post-1151265933138969592006-06-25T13:05:00.000-07:002006-06-25T13:05:00.000-07:00The Left is so intellectually degenerate today tha...The Left is so intellectually degenerate today that they are embarassing to discuss with. The level of debate is so low one is reminded of kindergaarten. Childish and disgusting to witness in the person of adults, the Left is finished, terminal, and still clinging to life and delusions of grandeur. The worst is that many are afraid to point out to them the obvious.<BR/><BR/>Lefties, you are over.<BR/><BR/>And yet there are some among them who are in fact decent people, those who will in time come to reality and live as decent people once they realise they are followong a programme they have not clearly examined for flaws. Those are social and decnet people who haven't yet realised the problems inherent in their ideologies. They are susceptalbe to reason, and they welcome it, it seems, if given the chance. <BR/><BR/>It is our duty, and some fun, to provide sensible alternatives to the Left. Most have never considered that European imperialism, for example, is one of the best things ever to happen in Human history. It drops some jaws to speak so. And it's nearly painful to watch the light of reason enter the minds of those who otherwise would not have it. They walk away in a daze. Some. Not that damned mayor of Burnaby, he who depends on his ideology for his suits and limo rides. Normal people have normal sense, and they will come to see reason if we give them the chance to confront their own assumptions. It's a positive experience for most us, and for me a lot of fun.Daghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10664271893389366772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13144649.post-1151256877003231092006-06-25T10:34:00.000-07:002006-06-25T10:34:00.000-07:00Jane, you reminded me of an important detail that ...Jane, you reminded me of an important detail that I forgot to include in my post. <BR/><BR/>Many of the attendees had no idea of the vile nature of several groups or guests participating in their forum. Dag and Truepeers would frequently question them about how they reconcile the presence of this or that attendee at a "peace" forum, and the common response was "I don't know anything about that". <BR/><BR/>The delegates were quick to shackle modern-day 2006 America to dishonorable acts in its past, yet they reserved the right to remain totally distant and unconnected to any racist or violent elements that may have been in attendance as full partners at their conference. Why not grant the US the same slack that they allow for themselves? Last time I checked, Kennedy and Johnson weren't dictating American foreign policy anymore; it's a different country today. Your example reveals the self-delusion required to sleepwalk as a leftist these days.Charles Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18168475254263681673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13144649.post-1151256252466443182006-06-25T10:24:00.000-07:002006-06-25T10:24:00.000-07:00Jordan, thank you. " 'Peace at any costs' should ...Jordan, thank you. <BR/><I> " 'Peace at any costs' should not include tyranny or slavery." </I><BR/><BR/>This was almost word for word a statement I made to a journalist that spoke to me about my sign. They had no idea what I was talking about, students as they are of the CBC, BBC and NPR. A problem that was revealed to me yesterday, in stark clarity, was the length and depth that any meaningful discourse will need, since there is so much that their side do not know about our side of the issue. We'd have to begin merely defining our mutual terms, as their definition of "defense" or "war" is different than ours, as is their definition of "peace". <BR/><BR/>Increasingly I begin to call myself "liberal", since I believe in liberty, and that we must change the order of things by liberating fellow human beings currently enslaved by religious ideologies and political systems designed to conserve slavery and servile status. Maybe mutually defining terms like "liberal" and "conservative" should actually be the first point of departure for any meaningful dialogue that is to be above childish name-calling?Charles Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18168475254263681673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13144649.post-1151230544362467052006-06-25T03:15:00.000-07:002006-06-25T03:15:00.000-07:00This Forum, which gave a platform to apologists fo...This Forum, which gave a platform to apologists for terrorism, is now part of the track record of Jinny Sims, President of the BC Teachers Federation. And it should surface like a pop-up message when she asks for public support during the next teachers strike. <BR/><BR/>Sims' slightly loony track record was being established before the Forum when she publicly linked herself to the legacy of Rosa Parks. While leading teachers into an illegal strike several months ago and risking jail, she likened herself to Rosa Parks. <BR/><BR/>Now, as Sims threatens to lead teachers into a follow-up strike, she has seen fit to link herself to another female activist: al-Rubaiee al. Under Sims’ leadership, the BCTF formally endorsed the Forum despite the fact that it would give a platform to the bloodthirsty al-Rubaiee al of the Iraqi Patriot Alliance: <BR/><BR/>"The Iraqi resistance was able to cause a high number of casualties in material and soldiers among the occupying forces," al Rubaiee al boasted on the al-Basrah website. "The resistance fighters were able to liberate 30 cities, creating a suitable environment for the resistance fighters by forming a death zone for the occupying forces and their agents."<BR/> <BR/>Sims, who is of Pakistani descent, was aware that the Forum would be stacked with people with views like al-Rubaiee al. <BR/><BR/>Next time Sims pleads for public support during a teachers strike -- The "Teachers Care" strike ads are beginning already -- and presents herself as being of the same ilk as Rosa, she should be interrupted: “No Jinny, you’re of the same ilk as Nada. Nada’s the one you used union dues to give a voice to.”Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13144649.post-1151221480563566642006-06-25T00:44:00.000-07:002006-06-25T00:44:00.000-07:00Excellent post and thank g-d you were there to bri...Excellent post and thank g-d you were there to bring a little friendly discenting opinion into the frey!<BR/><BR/>I am liberal, but I have had it with the estreme left. "Peace at any costs" should not include tyranny or slavery. Incedently, have you read the Euston Manifesto? It allows me to retain my progressive ideology without having to sympathize with terrorists and jew/american haters (pretty much the same thing these days) nor does it force me to practice the soft bigotry of low expectations.Jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02660839325281160754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13144649.post-1151207375002657982006-06-24T20:49:00.000-07:002006-06-24T20:49:00.000-07:00Truepeers, to me the whole point of western civili...Truepeers, to me the whole point of western civilization is to undertake the lesser of two evils. To humbly recognize that perfection may be a noble goal, but it is unattainable, and that we must learn to compromise for a prize outside of absolute perfection. <BR/><BR/>Settling for least evils seemed to be a choice unimagined by many we met today, convinced as they were that there is no such thing as a moral order to be drafted for any of our possible choices, no "betters" and no "worse", just all bad, and one good. That one good, the utopia of no war and everlasting peace, seems to involve a different understanding of humanity than the fallible two-legged beings I've grown accustomed to interacting with on a daily basis these past few decades.<BR/><BR/>Who argues that "peace" is an unworthy goal? It's the means to the end that are in doubt, and the fact that the delegates today view western civilization as the barrier to progress, rather than the means to that end, was probably the main area of disagreement.Charles Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18168475254263681673noreply@blogger.com