Saturday, December 15, 2007

Some Considerations Regarding the Murder of Aqsa Parvez

"Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them." -- Qur'an 4:34

The story below from the Edmonton Sun by Canadian Press gives us some outline of the murder of Aqsa Parvez, a 16 year old Toronto girl murdered allegedly by her father. The story below is only partially true, and therefore the missing details the original story leaves out are included, to a bare extent, to give the reader an indication of what more lies behind this murder. Please see the link to the original story at bottom.

"Death of 16-Year-Old Girl 'Not About Religion'; Teen slain after refusing to wear hijab, father charged." Canadian Press, Edmonton Sun, Dec. 13, 2007.

The Sun: Toronto. Islamic leaders rose to the defence of their religion Thursday as the Muslim community continued to grieve the death of a 16-year-old girl — and deny suggestions that her slaying should in any way be interpreted as a reflection on their faith.

Islam condemns violence and teaches adherents not to force their beliefs upon others, Sheik Alaa El-Sayyed, imam at Mississauga's Islamic Society of North America, told a news conference in the suburban city west of Toronto that was once home to Aqsa Parvez.

Right: Sheik Alaa El-Sayyed, imam at Mississauga's Islamic Society of North America


Note: What is the Islamic Society of North America ? According to Dr. J. Michael Waller, the Annenberg Professor of International Communications at the Institute of World Politics (who also serves as a Vice President of the Center for Security Policy): "The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) refers Muslim clerics to the U.S. Bureau of Prisons." The Islamic Society of North America is an influential front for the promotion of the Wahhabi political, ideological and theological infrastructure in the United States and Canada. Established by the Saudi-sponsored Muslim Students Association (which has hundreds of chapters on U.S. college campuses), ISNA seeks to marginalize leaders of the Muslim faith who do not support its ideological goals. Through sponsorship of propaganda, doctrinal material and mosques, ISNA is pursuing the Islamofascists' strategic objective of dominating Islam in North America.

Note: "Islam condemns violence and teaches adherents not to force their beliefs upon others." Incredibly, that's almost true. There are only a few problems with it that make it not true:

What Does Islam Say About "Forcing People in Religion?"

A basic and fundamental truth established by the sacred texts of Islam (Quran and Hadeeth) is that: - "No one can be compelled to accept Islam!"

It is the duty of the Muslims to establish proof of validity of Islam to the people in order for the truth to be distinct from falsehood. Once that is done, whoever wishes to accept Islam may do so and whoever wishes to continue upon their belief may do so. No one is to be threatened or harmed in any way should they chose not to accept Islam.

It's in the details that the whole thing goes pear-shaped. The Bible has some very exciting bits in it to rouse the imagination and thrill the soul with violence and rampage, but unfortunately it's metaphor and dusty history of long-dead tribes in North Africa. It has little to do with anything in the past 2,500 years other than providing stories of origins and history. The Koran, on the other hand, is alive and vibrant, the immutable and unchanging word or Allah, valid for all time and not to be changed by so much as a letter. Those Christians or Jews who try to justify their deed of violence against others haven't got anything theologically valid to stand on. Christians do not support violence committed by random individuals or sects of lunatics. Islam, though, is all for violence. It's required.

Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98

On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161

Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191

Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39

Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.

If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. - 3:157-8

You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. - Surah 3:169-71

Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. - Surah 4:74

Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76

But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89

Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. - 5:14

O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54

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Christians might be individually violent but it has nothing to do with Christianity; the same cannot be said of Islam.

But what of "no compulsion in religion"? Well, that's where it almost seems true but isn't.

When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5

Believers! Know that idolators are unclean. - 9:28

Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29

Muslims are required to fight and carry on jihad till the whole world submits to the religion of Mohammed, i.e. Islam. Most have the alternative of either converting to Islam at the point of the sword or dying; some, such as Jews, (though no longer) Christians, Zoroastrians had the option of dying at the hands of victorious Muslims, of converting to Islam, or of becoming dhimmis. Dhimmis? That would be the thrust of this blog. No Dhimmitude. Suffice it to say dhimmitude is worse than death. Robert Spencer writes:

Dhimmitude is the status that Islamic law, the Sharia, mandates for non-Muslims, primarily Jews and Christians. Dhimmis, "protected people," are free to practice their religion in a Sharia regime, but are made subject to a number of humiliating regulations designed to enforce the Qur'an's command that they "feel themselves subdued" (Sura 9:29). This denial of equality of rights and dignity remains part of the Sharia, and, as such, is part of the law that global jihadists are laboring to impose everywhere, ultimately on the entire human race.

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So, no, there is no compulsion in religion if you're a Jew, a Christian, or a Zoroastrian. That you would rather be dead is the only flaw in the rosy picture painted by Muslims.

The Sun
: The high school student, who died late Monday in hospital, was embroiled in a long-standing dispute with her family over her apparent reluctance to wear the hijab, the traditional Muslim head scarf, her school friends say.

Police were summoned to her home after a man called 911 to say he'd killed his daughter.

Parvez's father Muhammad, a taxi driver in Mississauga, is in custody and charged with murder. He has not yet entered a plea.

Police have also charged his 26-year-old son, Waqas, with obstructing police in connection with his sister's death. He was scheduled to appear in court Friday for a bail hearing.

"The bottom line is, it's a domestic violence issue," El-Sayyed said.


Note: "Honour" killings of women can be defined as acts of murder in which "a woman is killed for her actual or perceived immoral behavior." (Yasmeen Hassan, "The Fate of Pakistani Women," International Herald Tribune, May 25, 1999.) Such "immoral behavior" may take the form of marital infidelity, refusing to submit to an arranged marriage, demanding a divorce, flirting with or receiving phone calls from men, failing to serve a meal on time, or -- grotesquely -- "allowing herself" to be raped. In the Turkish province of Sanliurfa, one young woman's "throat was slit in the town square because a love ballad was dedicated to her over the radio." (Pelin Turgut, "'Honour' Killings Still Plague Turkish Province," The Toronto Star, May 14, 1998.)....

Pakistan, where "honour" killings are known as karo-kari, is probably the country where such atrocities are most pervasive. Estimating the scale of the phenomenon there, as elsewhere, is made more difficult not only by the problems of data collection in predominantly rural countries, but by the extent to which community members and political authorities collaborate in covering up the atrocities. According to Yasmeen Hassan, author of The Haven Becomes Hell: A Study of Domestic Violence in Pakistan, "The concepts of women as property and honor are so deeply entrenched in the social, political and economic fabric of Pakistan that the government, for the most part, ignores the daily occurrences of women being killed and maimed by their families." (Hassan, "The Fate of Pakistani Women.") Frequently, women murdered in "honour" killings are recorded as having committed suicide or died in accidents....

More at the aptly named Gendercide Watch:

So, is it Islam or is it Muslim countries and Muslims in non-Muslim countries? Let's ask Muslim authorites:

ZINA: [Please see final entry.]

The Sun: "We, as Muslims, are Canadians and we should be dealt with just like everyone else. We have rights, duties... pros and cons just like all other human beings."


Note: Isn't there a concept from the Koran of Muslim supremacy?

Muslims often object that those who do not understand Arabic do not understand the Koran. In that case, let's compare a number of translations to see just what we might not understand: Quran 3:110:
PickthalYe are the best community that hath been raised up for mankind. Ye enjoin right conduct and forbid indecency; and ye believe in Allah. And if the People of the Scripture had believed it had been better for them. Some of them are believers; but most of them are evil-livers.
Arberry You are the best nation ever brought forth to men, bidding to honour, and forbidding dishonour, and believing in God. Had the People of the Book believed, it were better for them; some of them are believers, but the most of them are ungodly.
ShakirYou are the best of the nations raised up for (the benefit of) men; you enjoin what is right and forbid the wrong and believe in Allah; and if the followers of the Book had believed it would have been better for them; of them (some) are believers and most of them are transgressors.
SarwarYou are the best nation that ever existed among humanity. You command people to good and prohibit them from evil, and you believe in God. Had the People of the Book accepted the faith (Islam), it would certainly have been better for them. Some of them have faith, but most of them are evil doers.


The Sun: Autopsy results released Wednesday found Parvez died of "neck compression."

The tragedy has underscored a controversial and heated public debate about women's rights within Canada's Islamic communities, and inflamed existing tensions already strained by what Muslim leaders say is ignorance and misunderstanding in Canadian society.


Note: Perhaps it's Muslim women who are causing the problem, criticizing Islam.

Hesham A. Hassaballa, "Ayan Hirsi Ali: A One-Note Islam Critic"

Ali is a stinging and unrepentant in her criticism of what ails the Islamic world. Yet, she does not blame individual Muslims for this, but Islam itself....

She is a celebrity of sorts among Islamophobes, and I am not sure why....

Why does she garner such interest wherever she goes? Perhaps because these days the world seems to love outspoken critics of Islam, whether or not they have the facts to back up what they're saying....

Ali is an expert on putting a big negative stamp on Islam and finding ways to blame the religion for all sorts of problems that ail the Muslim (and non-Muslim world). Consider some of her incendiary statements:
  • On NPR's "Talk of the Nation," Ali tried to link the ills of the Muslim world--which have a multitude of causes—with just Islam itself. Of female genital mutilation, Ali admitted that it started "1,800 years before Christ, so it was way before Islam came about." Then comes the "but": "If you look at the countries that practice it today," Ali said, "most of them are Islamic. And one of the things that makes [female genital mutilation] very useful for Muslims is their attitude towards virginity and premarital sex. The Qur'an is very clear and says those who engage in premarital sex should be flogged 100 times, both men and women. But it is, of course, much easier to prove that a woman has had premarital sex. Islam, like some of the other monotheistic faiths, tries to control the sexuality of the woman first."
  • When talking about slavery, she highlighted how the fight to abolish the slavery practiced by the West came from within the West itself. In contrast, however, "Today, in the world we live in, slavery is practiced only in Arab/Islamic world ... Muslims are not responding to that," she said to Neal Conan of NPR....
The author above, Hassaballa, does have some very devastating come-backs, such as "Yeah but..." and "Oh, yeah, well you too...."

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The Sun: Women ultimately have the choice of whether or not they want to wear a hijab, but Islam teaches that such women occupy a more advanced position within the religion, El-Sayyed said.


Note: There have been objections to that kind of remark, some based on the Koranic injunction to go into your wives as if they were a file for you to plow whenever you care to, a concept that seems very much like marital rape. But what does a woman say? Perhaps men have it all wrong:

Maryam Namazie, "Islam, political Islam and women in the Middle East"

Speech at a March 8 conference entitled 'Islam, Secularism and Women in the Middle East'
March 9, 2002 London, UK

The situation of women living in Islam-stricken societies and under Islamic laws is the outrage of the 21st century. Burqa-clad and veiled women and girls, beheadings, stoning to death, floggings, child sexual abuse in the name of marriage and sexual apartheid are only the most brutal and visible aspects of women's rightlessness and third class citizen status in the Middle East.

Apologists for Islam state that the situation of women in Iran and in Islam-stricken countries is human folly; they say that Islamic rules and laws practised in the Middle East are not following the true precepts of Islam. They state that we must separate Islam from the practice of Islamic governments and movements.

In fact, however, the brutality and violence meted out against women and girls are nothing other than Islam itself.

According to the Koran, for example, the fornicator must be flogged a hundred stripes (The Light: 24.2). Those who are guilty of an 'indecency' must be 'confined until death takes them away or Allah opens some way for them.' (The Women, 4.15). 'Men are the maintainers of women' and 'good' women are obedient. Those that men fear 'desertion', can be admonished, confined and beaten' (The Women, 4.34). Wives are a 'tilth' for men, which they can go into their 'tilth' when they like (The Cow, 2.223). Veiling is promoted in the Koran: 'O Prophet! Say to your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers that they let down upon them their over-garments' (The Clans, 33.59).

Apologists for Islam say that these verses have been misinterpreted. They go so far as to claim that there is gender equity in Islam and Islam respects the rights of women.

Regarding the verse in the Koran sanctioning violence against women, they say that Islam only permits violence after admonishment and confinement and as a last resort. They say, since men would beat their wives mercilessly at that time, this is a restriction on men to beat women more mercifully....
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The Sun: "When I look at a woman who is covered, I look at her as a soul, a person, a mentality — not a physical or sexual object," he said.


Note: What is an "uncovered" woman?

"If you take uncovered meat and put it on the street, on the pavement, in a garden, in a park, or in the backyard, without a cover and the cats eat it, then whose fault will it be, the cat?s, or the uncovered meat?s? The uncovered meat is the disaster. If the meat was covered the cats wouldn?t roam around it. If the meat is inside the fridge, they won?t get it."

-Australian Muslim Leader, Sheik Taj Din al-Hilaly's Post-Ramadan Sermon, Sydney Australia 2006. He was referring to women.

More at: Imam justifies rape of unveiled women
Australian cleric compares victims to 'uncovered meat' that attracts cats.


The Sun: Muslim women who wear veils might not "look pretty," but their modest dress protects them, he added.


Note: What does this mean? Protect women from what?

"Raped by a Muslim," By Yusuf

[....] An alarming, disturbing trend has been discovered in Europe and Australia. And the trend is shocking to say at the least. Muslim men have been found caught in rape and gang-rape of western women. This trend of rape is increasing and is found highest in areas with the highest immigrant population.

Why Muslim men have to resort to such shameful acts of taking a woman's honor? Is it something to do with the way Islam is being taught by our Mullahs or is it something much deeper.

I was shocked to find how rape has increased in Scandinavian Nations that is specifically in Sweden, Norway, and Denmark. These rape incidents increase in summer when conventionally western women dress skimpily.

In 2001, it has been reported that two out of three charged in rape has been an immigrant in Oslo – Norway's Capital. And this is just not an isolated nation bearing the brunt of our men who cannot keep their libido in place.

Lebanese Muslim Gangs in Australia routinely go on abusing white women and girls and many of them have become victims of gang rapes by Lebanese men. This led to race riots in Sydney among the Lebanese gangs and Neo-Nazi gangs with a common Australian caught in between

A Pakistani man in Australia had the audacity to say in court that his 14 year old rape victims had no right to say that they were raped because they did not wear hijab.

On top of it a statement coming from Sheikh Taj Din al-Hilali that women dressed in "satanic clothing" are responsible for their rapes is an open invitation for those Lebanese Muslim Gangs to rape more.

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The Sun: Mohammad Iqbal Alnadvi, a marriage counsellor and religious expert at the Al-Fatah Islamic Centre in Oakville, said he believes it's important for parents in Muslim families to give their daughters a choice when it comes to decisions of dress.

"My daughter, she's going into Grade 11, and she's taking the hijab," Alnadvi said.

"I never asked her to take the hijab, but I developed a mentality in her to choose — it is her choice."

Right: Sheik Alaa El-Sayyed, imam at Mississauga's Islamic Society of North America


Note: "By compelling his daughter to wed an illiterate villager for whom the very idea of female independence is anathema,who believes it's a husband's God-given right and duty to beat such ideas out of her for (or, for that matter, for no reason whatsoever), and who will restrict her movements outside the home as fully as possible, a father can fight off the influence of the West and ensure his daughter, though living in Europe, will have a life very much like that of a peasant woman in a Pakistani village." Bruce Bauer, While Europe Slept. p. 22. 2006

The Sun: Meanwhile, students and friends at Applewood Heights Secondary School were expressing
outrage at the intense media attention generated by the death of their friend.

"This is not about religion," said one student, standing near the school and clad in a hijab, who refused to give her name.

Note: The West makes a natural mistake in their understanding of Islamic tradition, assuming that religion means the same for Muslims as it has meant for most other religious adherents ever since the industrial revolution, and for some societies, even before that; that is: a section of life reserved for certain matters, and separate from other sections of life. This is not the Islamic world view. It never has been in the past, and modern attempts of making it so are seen as an aberration.

Islam: A Total Way of Life

Islam is a "total way of life." It has provided guidance in every sphere of life, from individual cleanliness, rules of trade, to the structure and politics of the society. Islam can never be separated from social, political, or economic life, since religion provides moral guidance for every action that a person takes. The primary act of faith is to strive to implement God's will in both private and public life. Muslims see that they, themselves, as well as the world around them, must be in total submission to God and his Will. Moreover, they know that this concept of His rule must be established on earth in order to create a just society. Like Jews and Christians before them, Muslims have been called into a covenant relationship with God, making them a community of believers who must serve as an example to other nations by creating a moral social order. God tells the Muslim global nation....
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Original story in its original form here:

Why was Aqsa Parvez murdered?

: This is the Muslim term for sex-crimes relating to women. From D.W. Walker, Annotated Glossary of Islamic Extremism. (Work in progress.)

Zina : Islamically illicit sex, generally considered to be committed by or against females, i.e. adultery, rape [passive], incest, premarital sex, or "mingling" [ q.v.]. C.f. Rape; Honor killings.
"All Sunni schools of jurisprudence agree that zina is to be punished with stoning if the offender is muhsan [q.v.], i.e. adult, free, and Muslim…." Bearman, et al., Encyclopedia of Islam: vol. 11, p.509.
Zina: extramarital sex, according to Islamic law.
"Fornication and adultery, i.e. sexual intercourse between partners who are not married to each other. One of the Kabair (major sins) in Islam. Allah Ta'ala [ q.v.] has prescribed flogging (100 lashes) and year's exile for either a man or a woman who commits Zinah and is not married. Although it is not expressly stated in the Qur'an, the Prophet Muhammad, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, made it clear that a married man or woman who commits Zinah is to be stoned to death. Similarly, homosexuals and lesbians in a Muslim community are put to death. These measures protect the cohesion of the family, and accordingly of the community as whole. See Holy Qur'an An-Nur (24):2-10."
"If such criminals are unmarried or are the unsophisticated youth, then their punishment is a hundred stripes and exile and if they are widowers or are married, then their punishment is a hundred stripes and death by stoning." Sahih Muslim [ q.v.] 1690
"The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication, flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment." Koran 24:2.
"Imran b. Hussein reported that a woman from Juhaina came to Mohammed and said she had become pregnant because of adultery. She said: 'I am pregnant as a result of Zina.' Mohammed said: 'Go back, and come to me after the birth of the child.' After giving birth, the woman came back to Mohammed, saying: 'Please purify me now.' Next, Muhammad said, 'Go and suckle your child, and come after the period of suckling is over.' She came after the period of weaning and brought a piece of bread with her. She fed the child the piece of bread and said, 'O, Allah's Apostle, the child has been weaned.' At that Muhammad pronounced judgment about her and she was stoned to death." "The Book Pertaining to Punishments Prescribed by Islam (Kitab Al-Hudud)." Sahih Muslim, B. 17, N. 4207. USC-MSA, Compendium of Muslim Texts.
"Meanwhile, as a result of the misclassification of rape, there are women all over the Muslem world who are actually rape victims. Some estimate that as many as 75 per cent of women in Pakistani prisons are there because they were raped." Paraphrased: Robert Spencer, Islam Unveiled. Encounter Books: 2003: P. 91; note # 58, p. 190.
"A jirga (meeting of tribal elders) publicly executed four people, including a woman, on charges of adultery in Khyber Agency, some 25 kilometers west of Peshawar in the North-West Frontier Province (NWFP).
Gul said the culprits admitted in front of 600 tribesmen, including elders of the jirga of Sipah, that they were committing adultery. He said the jirga handed down the death penalty to the culprits. They were shot dead the next morning in front of the tribal people in the Spera Dam area of Khyber Agency.
Last year, three people, including a woman, were killed after they were allegedly caught red-handed and arrested in a house in the agency. The jirga decided the case in a couple of days and agreed on the death penalty. Later, the three culprits were first stoned then shot dead as per tribal customs." Irfan Ashraf, "Pakistan: Public Execution for Adultery,"; 5 June 2007.
"Maududi [q.v.] describes the following conditions traditionally meted out as punishment for zina:
The accused, before the accusation, must be known as a practicing Muslim.
The accused must possess common sense. The accused must not have been in an intoxicated state of mind while the act was committed.
The accused must be an adult having well surpassed the age of puberty.
The accused must have committed adultery of his/her own free will.
There must be four male witnesses (or pieces of evidence) to support the accusation (of sexual penetration).
Additional fulfillment of the following requirements is necessary for an execution:
The accused must be free and not a slave.
The accused must be married (according to Islamic Law), and must enjoy normal sexual relations with his/her spouse (and therefore have a legitimate means of satisfying his/her sexual desires) prior to committing adultery.
The accused (woman) must not be pregnant or be responsible for breast feeding a child." Wikipedia, "Zina."
"It is forbidden to look upon a woman other than ones wife, or an animal, or a statue, in a sensual or lubricious manner." Ruholla Khomeini: p. 125.
"If any of your women commit fornication, call in four witnesses from among yourselves against them; if they testify to they guilt, confine them to their houses till death overtakes them or till Allah finds another way for them. If two men among you commit an indecency, punish them both. If they repent and mend their ways, let them be. Allah is forgiving and merciful." Koran, 4: 13.
"Allah sent Muhammad with the Truth and revealed the Holy Book to him, and among what Allah revealed, was the Verse of the Rajam (the stoning of married person (male & female) who commits illegal sexual intercourse, and we did recite this Verse and understood and memorized it. Allah's Apostle did carry out the punishment of stoning and so did we after him.
I am afraid that after a long time has passed, somebody will say, 'By Allah, we do not find the Verse of the Rajam in Allah's Book,' and thus they will go astray by leaving an obligation which Allah has revealed. And the punishment of the Rajam is to be inflicted to any married person (male & female), who commits illegal sexual intercourse, if the required evidence is available or there is conception or confession." Sahih Bukhari, Book 82: Volume 8, Number 817: Narrated Ibn 'Abbas.
"Allah's Apostle judged that the unmarried person who was guilty of illegal sexual intercourse be exiled for one year and receive the legal punishment ( i.e., be flogged with one-hundred stripes.) Sahih Bukhari,Volume 8, Book 82, Number 819: Narrated Abu Huraira:
"The Prophet cursed the effeminate men and those women who assume the similitude (manners) of men. He also said, "Turn them out of your houses." He turned such-and-such person out, and 'Umar also turned out such-and-such person." Sahih Bukhari,: Volume 8, Book 82, Number 820: Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:
"A bedouin came to the Prophet while he (the Prophet) was sitting, and said, "O Allah's Apostle! Give your verdict according to Allah's Laws (in our case)." Then his opponent got up and said, "He has told the truth, O Allah's Apostle! Decide his case according to Allah's Laws. My son was a laborer working for this person, and he committed illegal sexual intercourse with his wife, and the people told me that my son should be stoned to death, but I offered one-hundred sheep and a slave girl as a ransom for him. Then I asked the religious learned people, and they told me that my son should be flogged with one-hundred stripes and be exiled for one year." The Prophet said, "By Him in Whose Hand my soul is, I will judge you according to Allah's Laws. The sheep and the slave girl will be returned to you and your son will be flogged one-hundred stripes and be exiled for one year. And you, O Unais! Go to the wife of this man (and if she confesses), stone her to death." So Unais went in the morning and stoned her to death (after she had confessed)." Sahih Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 82, Number 821: Narrated Abu Huraira and Zaid bin Khalid;
It is not zina: "If a man sodomizes the son, brother, or father of his wife after their marriage; the marriage remains valid." Ruhollah Khomeini: p. 100.
"Again, the penalties of a non-Muslim guilty of fornication with a Muslim woman are augmented because, in addition to the crime against morality, social duty, and religion he has committed sacrilege in that he has disgraced a Muslim and thereby cast scorn upon the Muslims in general, and so must be executed." Sultan Hussein Tabendeh, "Commentary on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights." Trans. F. J. Goulding. London: 1970; Quoted from "Bostom and Spencer, 'Sufism without Camouflage (Beyond Stephen Schwarz.' ", 6 Feb. 2005.
"If a man who has married a girl who has not reached puberty possesses her sexually before her nineth birthday, inflicting traumatisms upon her, he has no right to repeat such an act." Ruholla Khomeini: p. 100. That's not amore. That's zina.
"My mother doesn't visit me in prison. If you see her, tell her she promised to bring me cheese curls and chocolate. And she shouldn't forget to bring my red dress." Leila M. Amnesty International claims the girl has the mental age of eight. She was sold into prostitution at the age of eight by her mother. Condemned to death for "Acts incompatible with chastity."
"6:00 a.m., 16 Aug. 2004: Sixteen year old Atera Rajabi was hanged from a crane in the town square at Neka, Iran. She had been raped. Her crime: "Acts incompatible with chastity."

The concepts and some of the quotations above are but a small glimpse into the world of Shari'a, the basis of Islam for all sects and sections. Aqsa Parvez was murdered according to Islamic law, i.e. in accord with Shari'a. At this time, most in the West do not subscribe to Shari'a as the legal code for our nations. This is rapidly changing and Shari'a is becoming a distinct possibility in the West as Muslim populations continue to expand and non-Muslim populations in the West continue to shrink. With the coming of Shari'a in the West we will see an increase in such murders as took the life of Aqsa Parvez. In Islam, it is the law.


Dave Lucas said...

Take it easy! Relax! It's not a moslem boogeyman, it's a DAD that did the deed! Parents are sometimes overprotective, sometimes STUPID, like the woman who created the phony MySpace page that led to the suicide of Megan Meier. But that’s another story…

Islam did NOT kill Aqsa Parvez, no more than Christianity killed Megan Meier!

Keep in mind this is a single instance of a crime. Compare it with the video that pops up now and again of a stalker abducting a young woman who is later found dead. Aqsa Parvez’s death is NOT a normal “islamic event.” I remember a kid in 1st grade whose Christian mother forced him to kneel in rock salt when he was bad until his knees bled. When he was 12 she beat him so badly he lost hearing in one ear.

dag said...

Dave, I have a feeling that if I do some searching I'm going to find you have posted the exact comment at other places. I saw it yesterday, word for word.

So, Dave, what do you do for a living?

personalrep1 said...


Larry Houle

Most Muslim apologists and also some gullible westerners want to argue that the 'so called "honor killing" is not Islamic and it's a tribal/cultural vice.' This statement is utterly untrue and only a wish full covers up. It's true that in pre-Islamic Arab culture this heinous honor killing of women did exist; likewise, many other uncivilized practices like stoning, flogging, beheading, slavery etc also existed in the pre-Islamic Arab society. But Islam did incorporate entirely most of these inhumane/uncivilized practices of pagan society, which they now call them Allah's laws.

Had it been the tribal/cultural practice, 'honor killing' would exist amongst the Arabs only. But honor killing does happen amongst the non-Arab Muslims also. Also Arabs belonged to all religions (Muslims, Christians, Jews, Bhai etc.) would practice honor killing with equal prevalence. Fact of the matter is-no Arab Christians, Jews or Bahai etc do practice this uncivilized act at all. Only Arab Muslims practice this heinous act with a regular pattern.
Honor killing does happen only amongst the Muslims and these honor killings get support and encouragement from the ethical teachings of religion Islam. In 1986 this kind of honor killing did happen in the United States of America in an Arab Muslim family. In 2003 honor killing happened in Sweden again in a Muslim family. However, some very rare, sporadic case of such killing might have happened in other society or people of other religion. But they are no where near to compare with the regular pattern, or routine feature of honor killings which do happen in the Muslim nations that I have mentioned. It has been reported that in Pakistan and in Jordan several hundreds of "honor killings" do happen every year. Perhaps, it will be more plausible to name this so called 'honor' as the "Islamic honor", which Muslims stupendously try to save!

Dictums of Quran and Hadiths which may dictate/incite honor killing:

Quran- 4:15 "If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four (reliable) witness from amongst you against them; if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them. Or God ordain for them some (other) way."

Quran-24:2 "The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication-flog each of them with hundred stripes: Let no compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by God, if ye believe in God and the last day."

Quran-17:32 " Nor come nigh to adultery: for it is a shameful (deed) and an evil, opening the road (to other evils).

Quran-33:33 "stay quietly in your houses, and make not a dazzling display."

Now some sahih hadiths:

Bukhari: Volume 7, Book 63, Number 196:
Narrated Abu Huraira: A man from Bani Aslam came to Allah's Apostle while he was in the mosque and called (the Prophet ) saying, "O Allah's Apostle! I have committed illegal sexual intercourse." On that the Prophet turned his face from him to the other side, whereupon the man moved to the side towards which the Prophet had turned his face, and said, "O Allah's Apostle! I have committed illegal sexual intercourse." The Prophet turned his face (from him) to the other side whereupon the man moved to the side towards which the Prophet had turned his face, and repeated his statement. The Prophet turned his face (from him) to the other side again. The man moved again (and repeated his statement) for the fourth time. So when the man had given witness four times against himself, the Prophet called him and said, "Are you insane?" He replied, "No." The Prophet then said (to his companions), "Go and stone him to death." The man was a married one. Jabir bin 'Abdullah Al-Ansari said: I was one of those who stoned him. We stoned him at the Musalla ('Id praying place) in Medina. When the stones hit him with their sharp edges, he fled, but we caught him at Al-Harra and stoned him till he died.

(See also Bukhari: Volume 7, Book 63, Number 195.)
Sahi Buchari: 8:6814:
Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah al-Ansari: "A man from the tribe of Bani Aslam came to Allah's Messenger [Muhammad] and informed him that he had committed illegal sexual intercourse; and he bore witness four times against himself. Allah's Messenger ordered him to be stoned to death as he was a married person."

Sahi Muslim No. 4206:
"A woman came to the prophet and asked for purification by seeking punishment. He told her to go away and seek God's forgiveness. She persisted four times and admitted she was pregnant. He told her to wait until she had given birth. Then he said that the Muslim community should wait until she had weaned her child. When the day arrived for the child to take solid food, Muhammad handed the child over to the community. And when he had given command over her and she was put in a hole up to her breast, he ordered the people to stone her. Khalid b. al-Walid came forward with a stone which he threw at her head, and when the blood spurted on her face he cursed her."

Sahih Al-Bukhari Vol 2. pg 1009; and Sahih Muslim Vol 2. pg 65:
Hadhrat Abdullah ibne Abbaas (Radiallahu Anhu) narrates the lecture that Hadhrat Umar (Radiallaahu Anhu) delivered whilst sitting on the pulpit of Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wa Sallam). Hadhrat Umar (Radiallahu Anhu) said, "Verily, Allah sent Muhammad (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) with the truth, and revealed the Quran upon him. The verse regarding the stoning of the adulterer/ess was from amongst the verse revealed (in the Quraan). We read it, secured it and understood it. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) stoned and we stoned after him. I fear that with the passage of time a person might say, 'We do not find mention of stoning in the Book of Allah and thereby go astray by leaving out an obligation revealed by Allah. Verily, the stoning of a adulterer/ress is found in the Quraan and is the truth, if the witnesses are met or there is a pregnancy or confession."

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, "Whoever guarantees me that he will guard his chastity, I will guarantee him Paradise".

Al-Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Dawud, An-Nisa'i and others:
Abu Hurayrah reports that the Messenger of Allah said, "No one commits adultery while still remaining a believer, for faith is more precious unto Allah than such an evil act!" In another version, it is stated, "When a person commits adultery he casts away from his neck the bond that ties him to Islam; if, however, he repents, Allah will accept his repentance".

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, "O mankind! Beware of fornication/adultery for it entails six dire consequences: three of them relating to this world and three to the next world. As for the three that are related to this world, they are the following: it removes the glow of one's face, brings poverty, and reduces the life-span. As for its dire consequences in the next world they are: it brings down the wrath of Allah upon the person, subjects him to terrible reckoning, and finally casts him in hell-fire."

The above Quranic verses and authentic sahih hadiths clearly demonstrate beyond doubt that Prophet Muhammad, under Allah's direction, stoned adulterers to death and flogged fornicators. Allah's decree/choice of death for fornicators (Quran: 4:15) and flogging adulteress 100 times with no mercy (Quran: 24:2, which also could lead to certain death) has clearly sanctioned/dictated dreadful punishment for sexual intercourse outside marriage. It is from these scriptural divine spirits Iranian fundamentalist Islamic government practices stoning and flogging adulterers even today. The Iranian Supreme Court sanctioned that an adulteress should be buried up to her chest and stoned to death. Mullahs of Iran know the hadiths quite well. This august body is closely following Allah's prophet. It is also quite prudent to consider that Muslim parents those who are practicing honor killing are directly motivated, or influenced by the above scriptural and historical (Hadiths) support; hence they are able to commit heinous crime called 'honor killing' with (almost) impunity, exultantly and with ample satisfaction that they are following the strict Islamic ethical code to guard chastity, as the holy Prophet repeatedly cautioned Muslims so seriously to guard their women's chastity.

Islamic ethics for adultery:

The Arabic word 'Zina' means all extramarital sexual intercourse between a man and a woman. According to Islam "Zina" constituted social suicide-an entire society commits suicide over time if it allows fornication and adultery to go unpunished in the Islamic style. As per Islamic justice-unmarried fornicators receive a hundred stripes, but married adulterers must die by stoning, as described in the Quran and in hadiths.

Opinion of some famous Islamists about Zina

The Saudi Ambassador to London, Ghazi al-Qusaibi, says that stoning may seem irrational to the western mind, but it is "at the core of the Islamic faith." An intellectual, the Saudi ambassador to London asserted that stoning adulterers to death is a legitimate punishment for society. He also says that Westerners should respect Muslin culture on this matter.

Sheikh Ahmad Kutty, a senior lecturer and Islamic scholar at the Islamic Institute of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, states: "Adultery in Islam is one of the most heinous and deadliest of sins. Its enormity can be gauged from the fact that it has often been conjoined in the Qur'an with the gravest of all sins: shirk or associating partners with Allah.
Hani Ramadan head of the Islamic Center in Geneva (Hani Ramadan is the elder brother of famed Swiss Muslim intellectual Tarek Ramadan, who are both the grandsons of Hassan Al-Banna, the founder of Egypt's outlawed Muslim Brotherhood.) stated, "Islam has taken a firm and decisive stance against Zina (fornication or adultery). Allah, the Almighty, commands in explicit and unequivocal words: "And come not near unto adultery. Lo! it is an abomination and an evil way." (Al-Isra': 32)."

Mufti Muhammad Aashiq Illahi Muhajir Madani (Illuminating Discourses on the Noble Qur'an, Karachi, Pakistan, Zam Zam, 2003) also follows this tactic of describing society that does not undergo Islamic punishments for the two sexual crimes. Families fall into ruin, which means society also is ruined. Sexual sins also cause widespread disease (vol. 6, pp. 360-66).

Al Skudsi bin Hookah, (roving reporter and foreign correspondent for The Gaza Gajeera.): "I am very unhappy. Our way of life is under attack. And we are not fighting back. Deep down, we know that when a woman has disgraced her family, nothing will restore honor except by killing her. This is understood in Jordan, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon, Egypt, the Gaza strip and the West Bank. So why are we Arabs telling the Western press that honor killing is cultural, that it is not really part of Islam? Our way of life is based on maintaining our honor. And make no mistake about it: a woman does tarnish her family's honor by engaging in pre-marital sex, or by getting herself raped, when she seeks divorce and when she marries against her family's wishes. And keeping our women pure is a big part of our honor. So there's no point saying honor killing isn't really part of our religion. Honor and Islam are inextricably bound; they are what give our life meaning. A strong religion demands we choose to maintain our honor."

Bassam al-Hadid, (A Jordanian with an American doctorate who spent 12 years as a hospital administrator in the United States): "I would do what I have to do,' said, when asked whether he would kill a daughter who had sex outside marriage."

Status of Women in Muslim society:

According to Islamic tradition the woman is an object owned by the man who assumes responsibility for her behavior and her life. The social and religious traditions lead to the isolation of the woman in her home. She is required to cover her entire body in order to maintain the honor of the man. In Qur'an, prophetic tradition and law, one finds a very strong presumption of women's chastity along with numerous safeguards to prevent any imputation of un-chastity A Muslim feminist sexual ethics must help create the conditions for the Qur'anic and traditional values of modesty and chastity to be lived by Muslim women and men in ways that are faithfully chosen and equitably maintained.

A woman who is either raped or commits adultery becomes the source of shame to her family. People will not marry her because she has been spoiled; she and her family becomes the object of gossip of everyone in the society; hence the entire family can lose prestige. No one would give a daughter to the brothers of that girl in marriage and no one would marry her sisters.

The family and even the extended family are maligned and become outcasts. This can only stop if the family cleanses that stain with blood. The woman thus defiled must be killed even if she is a victim of rape.

Role of Misogynistic attitude in Islam:

Islam is dreadfully anti-women. This statement can be proven with 100% guarantee by the well known and established fact that-women folks in every Muslim country in general, and in every Islamic paradise (country where Islamic Shariaat is enforced) in particular, are severely subjugated, oppressed, and considered less than second class citizen. Women in Islam are considered half human and in the Quran women have half the rights of men, sister has half the rights of brother, and women are considered deficient in intelligence.

Practically and Literally Islam consider women as the sources of great shame. Prophet Muhammad said women are awrah which can be translated as object of shame. What is awrah? The Encyclopedia of Islam defines 'awrah'as pudendum, which is the external genitals, especially of the female. The word Pudendum derives from the Latin pudor which means sense of shame and modesty. Therefore, awrah signify an object of shame that needs to be covered.

Interestingly, in the Indian sub-continent (Bangladesh-India-Pakistan)-women have another alternative name calling, in spite of having their usual name for the English word woman in the respective language. And this famous name calling is "Auraat" and common in all the three countries of the Indian sub-continent.

Obviously this common word "Auraat" for women came from the Arabic word Awrah. This common word "Auraat" is usually used as the synonym for woman with empathy, hatred, mercy and shame.

According to the following Hadiths, women not only have ten 'awrah, but the woman herself is perceived as 'awrah: "The woman is 'awrah. When she goes outside (the house), the devil welcomes her" (Ihy'a 'Uloum ed-Din by Ghazali, Dar al-Kotob al-'Elmeyah, Beirut , Vol II, Kitab Adab al-Nikah, p. 65. Reported by Tirmizi as a true and good Ahadith).
" Hazrat Ali (rightly guided Caliph) reported the Prophet saying: "Women have ten ('awrah). When she gets married, the husband covers one, and when she dies the grave covers the ten." ( Kanz-el-'Ummal, Vol. 22, Hadith No. 858. See also Ihy'a).

In most fanatical Islamic nations when a woman loses her awrah by e.g. through rape, she becomes the object of shame for her entire family, and also for the society. Only way to remove that shame and restore the honor is to remove that defiled woman. It is practiced in most Islamic countries with a regular pattern. The more religious is a country, the more is widespread the honor killing. As for example, Pakistan a Muslim majority nation did not have practice of honor killing until the fanatic and despotic Military dictator General Ziaul Hoq came to power. This despotic ruler by his decade long dictatorship turned Pakistan into an Islamic Sharia country. Along with intense acceleration of making Pakistan into a hub of Talibans, and Islamic terrorist's country, citizens of Pakistan also started vigorous practicing of honor killing on a regular basis.


Judging everything described in this essay, one can very genuinely lead to the conclusion that 'honor killing' is indeed the vice of Islam. Islam has much to do with honor killing practices which only do exist amongst the Muslims of the world. Had it been un-Islamic practice, we would have seen some Muslim nations prohibiting such cruel practice by Sharia law. We have not seen any Muslim country did enact any such law to curve honor killing.
We have seen innumerable cases of fatwas by Mullahs to prohibit alcohol drinking, pork eating or listening western music; but never ever heard any such fatwa against honor killing. Rather, honor killing has silent support from the devout Islamists of all kinds. Islamists condone honor killing silently! No wonder that the Al Skudsi bin Hookah (reported of Gazagejeera) so passionately said: "So there's no point saying honor killing isn't really part of our religion. Honor and Islam are inextricably bound; they are what give our life meaning. A strong religion demands we choose to maintain our honor."

One may argue that Quran does not say clearly about honor killing! Fact is there are plenty of things Muslims practice that are also not mentioned in the Quran. Stoning death also not available in the Quran. Yet Iranian Islamic government does practice stoning death by the decree of Islamic court. Afghan Taliban government did routinely practice stoning and flogging of adulterers. Most importantly, Quran did not create any scriptural instruction to ban the so called Arab tribal practice of "honor killing" either! Besides, if the honor killing was simply a tribal practice-then it would have been prevailed amongst the Arabs of all religions. There is no evidence to support that a Christian or Jewish family of Jordan or Palestine did practice honor killing.

Muslims who are stunningly devout and laden with Islamic superstitious beliefs do commit crime of Honor killing to fulfill their obligation of preserving Islamic ethics, and women chastity. The more a country gets fanatically religious the more frequent are honor killings (Pakistan is a perfect example).

Islam has incorporated many pre-Islamic practices of Arab pagans (stoning deaths, flogging the fornicators, slavery, war booty, beheading the criminals, cutting hands and foots of thieves, many rituals of animal sacrifice, annual pilgrimage to Mecca etc.) and readily called them Islamic or Allah's laws. Honor killing is one such pre-Islamic practice of Arab pagans which has been practicing by some devout Muslim families of many good Islamic nations of the world.

Because of the fact that the "honor killings" do have silent support from Islam, the killers are given light sentences, sometimes with little or no jail time at all. The killers are primarily influenced by Islamic ethics, and mainly defend their act of murder by referring to the Koran and Islam. They usually justify their evil deeds by the directives set down in the Islamic ethical beliefs and principles. Koran is very strict and belligerent regarding how to control women's sexuality, and Islamic Law; Sharia, rules harsh punishments including lashing and stoning to death for women's voluntary sexual activities. And it is because of these Islamic elements of support, no Islamic government dares to enact any criminal law to ban this barbaric slaughtering of innocent family girls. Even then some Islamists will still say that "honor killing" has nothing to do with Islam; just the way they say "Islamic terrorism" has nothing to do with the so called peaceful Islam. Their hypocritical denial is utter nonsense and stupendously deceptive. I urge those Islamists to tell us why this "honor killing" never happens among the non-Muslim Arab families? They must also tell us-why no Arab and non-Arab Muslim government dare to make any strict law to ban honor killings in their land?

Denying the truth is tantamount to committing this heinous crime to humanity, and denying will never solve this chronic problem of Islamic nations. Only way honor killing can be stopped is to admit the truth (real cause), and stop controlling public lives by the draconian laws (Sharia) of Islam. Let there be a strict separation of 'Mosque and State' in every Muslim majority nation of the world. Honor killing will definitely cease to exist.


1. Honor killing-maintaining family honor: by Al Skudsi bin Hookah, roving reporter and foreign correspondent for The Gaza Gajeera. Jan 20, 2003
2. The Seattle Times: 'Honor killing' shakes up Sweden after man slays daughter who wouldn't wed: By Carol J. Williams, Los Angeles Times
3. Culture of death? Palestinian girl's murder highlights growing number of 'honor killings'.
4. Honor Killing: By Ali Sina
5. The Holy Qur'an, Translated by A. Yousuf Ali, Published by Amana Corporation, Brentwood, Maryland, 1983
6. Buchari Sharif, Bengali Translation by Maulana Muhammad Mustafizur Rahman, Sulemani Printers and Publishers, Dhaka, Second edition-1999.
7. "Crimes of Honour" Women's Tragedy under Islam & Tribal Customs By Azam Kamiguian.

dag said...

That's a long comment. I hope that with my efforts and those of others in the field we can compile enough convincing evidence to show the prosecutors in the up-coming trial that this is not a simple case of a father losing his temper and unfortunately thereby ending the life of a disobedient daughter. This is a case, clearly, of premeditated murder.

Those who know nothing of honor killing today will come here to look over the comments and text in their search for understanding of the motives of the father in question. Anyone having any further evidence of the rationale behind honor killings would do all a good deed by commenting here and elsewhere. Yes, legal researchers do look at blogs such as this. Give them solid details with verifiable references and they will follow up.

"Dave Lucas" is one of those people researchers will encounter as well. He's been racing across the aether like a comet leaving the same comments everywhere he can, frantic to stop the spread of information of this type. Don't let Dave and his lot at CAIR and ISNA get away with this. Let the world know what yu know. Justice might be done.